From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ilya Shlyakhter Subject: Re: are super-hidden technical blocks required? Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 23:01:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20120730144259.GA1017@nausicaa.localdomain> <873941bsvs.fsf@gnu.org> <501ED1B7.5070808@alum.mit.edu> <87lihtasl3.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43093) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyDZq-0001iz-Q6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:01:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyDZp-0004Ah-N6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:01:54 -0400 Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:61994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyDZp-0004AW-Hq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:01:53 -0400 Received: by ggnj1 with SMTP id j1so309509ggn.0 for ; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:01:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Torsten Wagner Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Torsten Wagner wrote: > I can see the point that the property drawer header can be annoying > too. Actually, when I used orgmobile for the first time I was not too > happy to see all this property drawers suddenly appearing in my files. > Alternatively to a new kind of drawer, I would think of the > HIDDEN_PROP: line and an additional method which hides a drawer even > more if it only contains hidden property elements. That could be done, > for example, by the already mentioned custom face. > > That is, a drawer is clearly visible if it contains properties intend > to be read/changed by the user (not marked invisible). > A drawer is less visible, if it contains only properties marked as hidden. That would be great. Except, if a PROPERTIES drawer holds only hidden properties, it would be best to completely hide the :PROPERTIES: line (using outline-flag-region), rather than display it in a dimmed font. So that, unless you explicitly ask to reveal these lines, you edit the file as if they weren't there.