From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Yuri Niyazov Subject: Re: org-log-done vs. State Logbook Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:02:21 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87r3vb9msx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51495) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7dL4-00023w-3i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 00:02:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7dL2-0001HC-Ua for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 00:02:54 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]:36719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7dL2-0001GS-MF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 00:02:52 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id hv19so16662367lab.14 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 21:02:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org as soon as I typed that out I googled org mode scrum and found https://github.com/ianxm/emacs-scrum so I'll be giving that a look. Thanks for stimulating my brain :) On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrote: > Thank you. I am already using it, and org-habit really is for habits, > rather than for individual tasks. The closest non-Org analogy I can > think of what I am trying to implement is (for the programmers out > there) the "SCRUM" development methodology. I know it has its > detractors and is quite controversial, but the one aspect of it that I > liked when I was exposed to it is that it required someone to keep > track of how long it took a task, on average, to go from "created" to > "completed" stage. > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> Yuri Niyazov writes: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> So, I am trying to learn org-mode and figure out what's best for me. >>> One of the things that I would like to see is how long a TODO task >>> takes to travel through my life, on average from the moment when it is >>> captured, to scheduled, to done. Does something like this already >>> exists? >>> >>> One of the things I learned earlier today from this thread >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-10/msg00112.html >>> was that there's nothing that allows you to log state at the moment of >>> capture, so I created a capture template with a LOGBOOK drawer >>> included with an initial state change, like this: >>> >>> "* TODO %? >>> SCHEDULED: %^t >>> :LOGBOOK: >>> - State \"CAPTURED\" from \"\" %u >>> :END:" >>> >>> Now, one of the things that I am finding hard to figure out is what to >>> do at the end: there's both the ability to log when the object is done >>> using org-log-done, and one can also track every state change, which >>> includes the final state change of being done, with LOGBOOK state >>> changes. I am leaning towards turning them both on going forward, but >>> I have a bunch of old tasks, and some of them only have the CLOSED: >>> [timestamp] entry, and some of them only have the -State "DONE" from >>> "TODO" line in Logbook, and I don't know whether to invest the time >>> into fixing up the old entries to mirror the existing ones. The answer >>> to this depends on whether a package for for displaying statistics to >>> me already exists, and if it depends on one of those (CLOSED entry vs. >>> Logbook state changes). >>> >>> I know about clocktable, but clocktable seems to only be for >>> Clocking-in and Clocking-out entries, not across the lifetime of a >>> task. >> >> You could maybe take a look at org-habit? I haven't really used it, so I >> can't tell you about its ins and outs, but it might be useful. On the >> other hand, it seems to be mostly for repeating habits. Dunno what else >> there is... >> >>