From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Subhan Michael Tindall Subject: How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:17:03 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_ddc8f29532294a6ba33156228d51298ffcmailsvr3familycareinc_" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57357) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLzGC-0001eZ-Sk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:17:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLzG9-0007Dl-L0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:17:12 -0500 Received: from outbound.familycareinc.org ([207.170.205.147]:62288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLzG9-0007Ch-2T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:17:09 -0500 Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --_000_ddc8f29532294a6ba33156228d51298ffcmailsvr3familycareinc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both C-c C-d (deadline) and C-d C-s (schedule) bring up a calendar in the m= ini-buffer to pick a date This is great However, there doesn't appear to be any way to include a time in the deadli= ne without going in afterwards and manually editing it. This is not so great. I would dearly love to be able to easily enter in deadlines for items with = a full date/time stamp. I frequently need to know that item X is not only = due tomorrow (DEADLINE: <2015-02-13 Fri>). But that it is due tomorrow at 1= :00 PM (DEADLINE: <2015-02-13 Fri 13:00>) Manually editing to add the time stamp seems to cause no problems, and caus= es DEADLINES to locate in the time grid as expected, which is very helpful. Am I just missing something, or is this a glaring hole in the scheduling me= chanic? Thanks! Subhan This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to w= hich it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confid= ential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the = intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, y= ou are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute t= o anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you ha= ve received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by = reply email and delete the message. Thank you. --_000_ddc8f29532294a6ba33156228d51298ffcmailsvr3familycareinc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Both C-c C-d (deadline) and C-d C-s (schedule) bring= up a calendar in the mini-buffer to pick a date

This is great

However, there doesn’t appear to be any way to= include a time in the deadline without going in afterwards and manually ed= iting it.

This is not so great.

I would dearly love to be able to easily enter in de= adlines for items with a full date/time stamp. I frequently need to k= now that item X is not only due tomorrow (DEADLINE: <2015-02-13 Fri>)= . But that it is due tomorrow at 1:00 PM (DEADLINE: <2015-02-13 Fri 13:00>)

Manually editing to add the time stamp seems to caus= e no problems, and causes DEADLINES to locate in the time grid as expected,= which is very helpful.

Am I just missing something, or is this a glaring ho= le in the scheduling mechanic?
Thanks!

Subhan

This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity = to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, co= nfidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not = the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addresse= e, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribu= te to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If yo= u have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender= by reply email and delete the message. Thank you. --_000_ddc8f29532294a6ba33156228d51298ffcmailsvr3familycareinc_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Yuri Niyazov Subject: Re: How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:44:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33219) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM0dQ-0002Nj-Qd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:45:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM0dN-0000dr-IK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:45:16 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::236]:37545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM0dN-0000dF-EP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:45:13 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f54.google.com with SMTP id v63so5363676oia.13 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:45:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Subhan Michael Tindall Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" you can just type in the time in the mini buffer. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall wrote: > Both C-c C-d (deadline) and C-d C-s (schedule) bring up a calendar in the > mini-buffer to pick a date > > This is great > > However, there doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be any way to include a time in = the > deadline without going in afterwards and manually editing it. > > This is not so great. > > > > I would dearly love to be able to easily enter in deadlines for items wit= h a > full date/time stamp. I frequently need to know that item X is not only = due > tomorrow (DEADLINE: <2015-02-13 Fri>). But that it is due tomorrow at 1:0= 0 > PM (DEADLINE: <2015-02-13 Fri 13:00>) > > Manually editing to add the time stamp seems to cause no problems, and > causes DEADLINES to locate in the time grid as expected, which is very > helpful. > > Am I just missing something, or is this a glaring hole in the scheduling > mechanic? > Thanks! > > Subhan > > > > > This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are = not > the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended > addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose o= r > distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the > message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately > advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Thank you. 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<8e8765aacd3d4148986e0834917c3596@fcmailsvr3.familycareinc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34350) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM4FN-0003Xf-B3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:36:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM4FH-0007eM-8s for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:36:40 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f]:60397) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM4FH-0007e3-1a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:36:35 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id n10so12642588lbv.6 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:36:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8e8765aacd3d4148986e0834917c3596@fcmailsvr3.familycareinc.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Subhan Michael Tindall Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall wrote: > Not really an acceptable answer. Having to use 2 different interface meth= ods to fill in one time/date stamp value is confusing and cludgy. Plus, if = you type in a full time/date stamp + time, you can still move around in the= calendar, but it doesn't update the selected datestamp in yellow. Also co= nfusing. Cludgy is in the eye of the beholder. I am hugely bothered by various inconsistencies in org-mode user interface (see my other posts to this list) but this one is very far down on the list. This is why: When I need to schedule a date, it is sufficiently close to today's date that it is usually 2-3 S+ARROWS keystrokes away from today, so the calendar with "today" selected as default is great. So, let's see how a time selector would work: When you bring up a time selector, it could by default show one of the following three options: 1) The current time 2) The last time you selected when you used the time selector 3) Some default configurable time like "noon" When I need to schedule a time for an event, the time that something needs to happen is usually not related to any times on that list, so using S+ARROWS would be less efficient than typing out the time, which is at most four keystrokes if its on the hour. (E.g. "10pm" ). Of course, this is only true if you are a touch-typist. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Yuri Niyazov Subject: Re: How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:37:37 -0700 Message-ID: References:

<8e8765aacd3d4148986e0834917c3596@fcmailsvr3.familycareinc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM4Gv-0004za-K5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:38:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM4Gs-0008LL-9X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:38:17 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:42297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM4Gs-0008L7-2U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:38:14 -0500 Received: by labgf13 with SMTP id gf13so13454439lab.9 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:38:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Subhan Michael Tindall Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" PS It is clear that you can *both* select the correct date using calendar, and *then* type in the time while still in the calendar selector, right? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrot= e: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall > wrote: >> Not really an acceptable answer. Having to use 2 different interface met= hods to fill in one time/date stamp value is confusing and cludgy. Plus, if= you type in a full time/date stamp + time, you can still move around in th= e calendar, but it doesn't update the selected datestamp in yellow. Also c= onfusing. > > Cludgy is in the eye of the beholder. I am hugely bothered by various > inconsistencies in org-mode user interface (see my other posts to this > list) but this one is very far down on the list. This is why: > > When I need to schedule a date, it is sufficiently close to today's > date that it is usually 2-3 S+ARROWS keystrokes away from today, so > the calendar with "today" selected as default is great. > > So, let's see how a time selector would work: > > When you bring up a time selector, it could by default show one of the > following three options: > > 1) The current time > 2) The last time you selected when you used the time selector > 3) Some default configurable time like "noon" > > When I need to schedule a time for an event, the time that something > needs to happen is usually not related to any times on that list, so > using S+ARROWS would be less efficient than typing out the time, which > is at most four keystrokes if its on the hour. (E.g. "10pm" ). Of > course, this is only true if you are a touch-typist. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Millar Subject: Re: How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:14:39 -0500 Message-ID: <54DDF8BF.3040104@verizon.net> References:

<8e8765aacd3d4148986e0834917c3596@fcmailsvr3.familycareinc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMG3e-0005f9-7U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:13:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMG3Z-0007dP-7t for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:13:22 -0500 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]:38247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMG3Z-0007dD-1f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:13:17 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([96.238.154.15]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJP00BLGOPMCV40@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:12:59 -0600 (CST) In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 02/12/2015 07:37 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrote: > PS It is clear that you can *both* select the correct date using > calendar, and *then* type in the time while still in the calendar > selector, right? > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall >> wrote: >>> Not really an acceptable answer. Having to use 2 different interface methods to fill in one time/date stamp value is confusing and cludgy. Plus, if you type in a full time/date stamp + time, you can still move around in the calendar, but it doesn't update the selected datestamp in yellow. Also confusing. >> Cludgy is in the eye of the beholder. I am hugely bothered by various >> inconsistencies in org-mode user interface (see my other posts to this >> list) but this one is very far down on the list. This is why: >> >> When I need to schedule a date, it is sufficiently close to today's >> date that it is usually 2-3 S+ARROWS keystrokes away from today, so >> the calendar with "today" selected as default is great. >> >> So, let's see how a time selector would work: >> >> When you bring up a time selector, it could by default show one of the >> following three options: >> >> 1) The current time >> 2) The last time you selected when you used the time selector >> 3) Some default configurable time like "noon" >> >> When I need to schedule a time for an event, the time that something >> needs to happen is usually not related to any times on that list, so >> using S+ARROWS would be less efficient than typing out the time, which >> is at most four keystrokes if its on the hour. (E.g. "10pm" ). Of >> course, this is only true if you are a touch-typist. >> Why bother with the arrow keys at all? I have a capture template for appointments and deadlines which requests date and time. Calendar is called. Rather than arrow keys I type the datetime (optional duration) and then enter - e.g. call the template, then "2/28 13:30 (and then enter the rest of template requests such as 'What has to be done"" Charlie Millar Charlie Millar From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Millar Subject: Re: How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:25:27 -0500 Message-ID: <54DDFB47.50506@verizon.net> References:

<8e8765aacd3d4148986e0834917c3596@fcmailsvr3.familycareinc.org> <54DDF8BF.3040104@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38804) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMGE2-0003ZO-W9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:24:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMGDy-0002U4-PS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:24:06 -0500 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]:41776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMGDy-0002Tr-LI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:24:02 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([96.238.154.15]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJP00D0UP7LW890@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:23:47 -0600 (CST) In-reply-to: <54DDF8BF.3040104@verizon.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 02/13/2015 08:14 AM, Charles Millar wrote: > > On 02/12/2015 07:37 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrote: >> PS It is clear that you can *both* select the correct date using >> calendar, and *then* type in the time while still in the calendar >> selector, right? >> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Yuri Niyazov >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall >>> wrote: >>>> Not really an acceptable answer. Having to use 2 different >>>> interface methods to fill in one time/date stamp value is confusing >>>> and cludgy. Plus, if you type in a full time/date stamp + time, you >>>> can still move around in the calendar, but it doesn't update the >>>> selected datestamp in yellow. Also confusing. >>> Cludgy is in the eye of the beholder. I am hugely bothered by various >>> inconsistencies in org-mode user interface (see my other posts to this >>> list) but this one is very far down on the list. This is why: >>> >>> When I need to schedule a date, it is sufficiently close to today's >>> date that it is usually 2-3 S+ARROWS keystrokes away from today, so >>> the calendar with "today" selected as default is great. >>> >>> So, let's see how a time selector would work: >>> >>> When you bring up a time selector, it could by default show one of the >>> following three options: >>> >>> 1) The current time >>> 2) The last time you selected when you used the time selector >>> 3) Some default configurable time like "noon" >>> >>> When I need to schedule a time for an event, the time that something >>> needs to happen is usually not related to any times on that list, so >>> using S+ARROWS would be less efficient than typing out the time, which >>> is at most four keystrokes if its on the hour. (E.g. "10pm" ). Of >>> course, this is only true if you are a touch-typist. >>> > > Why bother with the arrow keys at all? I have a capture template for > appointments and deadlines which requests date and time. Calendar is > called. Rather than arrow keys I type the datetime (optional > duration) and then enter - e.g. call the template, then "2/28 13:30 > (and then enter the rest of template requests such as 'What has to be > done"" > > Charlie Millar Forgot to mention that with the deadline I also might enter a lead time From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Yuri Niyazov Subject: Re: How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:09:20 -0800 Message-ID: References:

<8e8765aacd3d4148986e0834917c3596@fcmailsvr3.familycareinc.org> <54DDF8BF.3040104@verizon.net> <54DDFB47.50506@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43924) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMj2L-0003pG-GL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:09:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMj2G-00021d-Oy for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:09:57 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com ([209.85.215.50]:33447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMj2G-00021O-Hg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:09:52 -0500 Received: by labhz20 with SMTP id hz20so22045580lab.0 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:09:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54DDFB47.50506@verizon.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Charles Millar wrote: >> Why bother with the arrow keys at all? I have a capture template for >> appointments and deadlines which requests date and time. Calendar is called. >> Rather than arrow keys I type the datetime (optional duration) and >> then enter - e.g. call the template, then "2/28 13:30 (and then enter the >> rest of template requests such as 'What has to be done"" Because "tomorrow" is one key combo away - Shift-Right, and you don't have to remember today's date and add 1 to it. Likewise, "same day next week" is one key combo away - Shift-Down", and you don't have to add 7 to it. YMMV, but this sort of cognitive load reduction is important to some people, including myself.