From: "Xianwen Chen (陈贤文)" <xianwen.chen@gmail.com>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: Org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-cite and export to ODT
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 08:47:55 +0000 [thread overview]
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Thank you John. I tried to C-c C-e. I was reminded that
org-ref-cite-natmove's function definition is void.
I also don't have functions that start with org-ref-export. I suspect that
I didn't load a file or package.
Bruce and András, I upgraded org-mode on my system to 9.5. org-cite works
after I added
(require 'oc)
Your examples work. I also noticed that I didn't need the following line:
#+cite_export: csl
Xianwen
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:50 AM John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:
> you are still not getting the directions. You don't export with C-c Ce oo
> here. You run that src block by putting your cursor in it and typing C-c
> C-c to run it.
>
> For org-ref, you have to use a preprocessing hook to replace the cite
> links with the csl derived links before the export is done. That is what
> the src block does. It temporarily defines org-export-before-parsing-hook
> to run those three hook functions before making an odt file.
>
> Alternatively you can do C-c C-e ro which will use the org-ref exporter
> that at least runs the org-ref csl preprocessor.
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his)
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:58 PM Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) <xianwen.chen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you John. I'm not sure why it does not work. Below is the minimal
>> example I created, using your example. I ran C-e o o to export to ODT. The
>> resulted ODT file didn't have the reference.
>>
>> #+title: A basic example of org-ref for csl export
>> #+options: toc:nil
>> #+csl-style: apa-5th-edition.csl
>> #+csl-locale: en-US
>>
>> * Bibliography
>>
>> bibliography:~/data/library/bibliography/biblatex/biblatex.bib
>>
>> cite:bayulken-et-al-2020-nbs-climate_change-pandemics
>>
>> * build :noexport:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results silent
>> (let ((org-export-before-parsing-hook '(org-ref-cite-natmove ;; do this
>> first
>> org-ref-csl-preprocess-buffer
>> org-ref-refproc)))
>> (org-open-file (org-odt-export-to-odt) 'system))
>> #+END_SRC
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:16 PM John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That code does not belong in your .emacs file. It should be in an
>>> emacs-lisp block in your org-file like it is in the example. You should run
>>> it from the org file.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his)
>>> Doherty Hall A207F
>>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>> Carnegie Mellon University
>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>> 412-268-7803
>>> @johnkitchin
>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:12 PM Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) <
>>> xianwen.chen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you all for the responses. I have to upgrade from orgmode 9.4.4
>>>> to 9.5 first, to try out org-cite.
>>>>
>>>> I tried
>>>> https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/examples/basic-csl.org#opendocument.
>>>> I added the following codes to my .emacs:
>>>>
>>>> (let ((org-export-before-parsing-hook '(org-ref-cite-natmove ;; do this
>>>> first
>>>> org-ref-csl-preprocess-buffer
>>>> org-ref-refproc)))
>>>> (org-open-file (org-odt-export-to-odt) 'system))
>>>>
>>>> I tried to eval-region, after selecting these codes. I got the complain
>>>> that org-ref-cite-natmove's function definition is void.
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to install or require something other than cite-ref?
>>>>
>>>> Xianwen
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 2:57 PM John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you are trying to use org-ref for this see
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRR-5NSpKyE and this example:
>>>>> https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/examples/basic-csl.org#opendocument.
>>>>> You need to use a preprocessing hook (org-ref-csl-preprocess-buffer) with
>>>>> org-ref to get the citations and bibliography .
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>> Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his)
>>>>> Doherty Hall A207F
>>>>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>>>> Carnegie Mellon University
>>>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>>>> 412-268-7803
>>>>> @johnkitchin
>>>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 4:54 AM Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) <
>>>>> xianwen.chen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been using org-ref and biblatex. They export well to PDF,
>>>>>> through LaTeX. I am able to export to ODT as well. However, I'm not able to
>>>>>> have the bibliography or the references in the produced ODT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched online and found this tutorial:
>>>>>> https://kjambunathan.github.io/org-mode-ox-odt/Bibliography-and-Citations-in-ODT-export.html.
>>>>>> However, when following through the tutorial, I wasn't able to find
>>>>>> ox-jabref.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thinking about the new org-cite, which is orgmode's native citation
>>>>>> solution, I'm wondering if it would be easier to use org-cite within
>>>>>> orgmode and export to ODT? A small example with configuration suggestion
>>>>>> will be highly appreciated!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xianwen
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-09 9:53 org-cite and export to ODT Xianwen Chen (陈贤文)
2021-12-09 14:57 ` John Kitchin
2021-12-15 22:11 ` Xianwen Chen (陈贤文)
2021-12-15 22:16 ` John Kitchin
2021-12-15 23:57 ` Xianwen Chen (陈贤文)
2021-12-16 0:50 ` John Kitchin
2021-12-16 8:47 ` Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) [this message]
2021-12-16 13:45 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-09 22:14 ` András Simonyi
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