From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Moritz Ulrich Subject: Re: converting people to Emacs and org-mode Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:21:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ip3wjdlw.fsf@gmail.com> <7401FF63-B5F4-46AF-BD35-9717130FADBB@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPVg6-00018j-JC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 06:21:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPVg5-0005tt-4d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 06:21:26 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]:48661) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPVg4-0005tk-Vc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 06:21:25 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id aq17so8078308iec.5 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 03:21:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7401FF63-B5F4-46AF-BD35-9717130FADBB@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Thorsten Jolitz I'm interested in the article too. Maybe you can arrange something with the editors if even the creator of org-mode is interested in the article? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On 9 apr. 2013, at 10:46, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > >> 42 147 writes: >> >>> This might be considered off-topic. >> >> Maybe not? I know of a fantastic Lisp dialect and >> web/database programming-environment out there >> >> ,------------------------------------ >> | PicoLisp >> | http://picolisp.com/5000/!wiki?home >> `------------------------------------ >> >> that suffers exactly from the rather low conversion rate of people to >> it, which is kind of hard to explain given its quality. >> >> But maybe Paul Graham is right in >> http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html, at least with regards to >> programming languages: >> >> ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >> | A friend of mine once told an eminent operating systems expert that he >> | wanted to design a really good programming language. The expert told h= im >> | that it would be a waste of time, that programming languages don't >> | become popular or unpopular based on their merits, and so no matter ho= w >> | good his language was, no one would use it. At least, that was what ha= d >> | happened to the language he had designed. >> `-----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >> >> And just like I try to spell the word about amazing PicoLisp with this >> email, I wrote an Org-mode article in the student magazine of my former >> German distance university with the title >> >> ,------------------------------------------------------ >> | Self-organization with Org-mode for distance students >> `------------------------------------------------------ > > > I would be interested to read this article. Can you make it available? > > - Carsten > >> >> (in German) >> >> Its in >> >> ,------------------------------------------- >> | "SprachRohr"-Ausgabe 04/2012 FernUni Hagen >> `------------------------------------------- >> >> and the cover can be seen here: >> http://www.fernstudis.de/node/1203 >> >> unfortunately only the cover, since download is restricted to >> immatriculated students, but I reached some 50-60k readers with this >> article and recieved very positive feedback, I cite from an anonymous >> fellow distance student: >> >> ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> | [...] ich geh=C3=B6re normalerweise nicht zu den Leserbriefschreibern,= aber hier >> | muss ich einfach mal ein ganz gro=C3=9Fes Lob loswerden: Vielen Dank f= =C3=BCr den >> | Artikel =C3=BCber Emacs Org-Mode - der erste Artikel [...] der mich wi= rklich >> | weiterbringt und ganz sehr zum "Weiterforschen" anregt. Org-Mode schei= nt >> | genau das Werkzeug zu sein, nach dem ich lange gesucht habe. >> `-----------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> >> (in English more or less: "normally I don't write reader comments, but >> Org-mode seems exactly the tool I was looking for and I feel very >> motivated to learn more about it after reading your article") >> >> So maybe there are ways to reach more people with less effort than in >> one-to-one conversion talks? Although, even with 50k readers, I will of >> course never know if I really achieved a single conversion. >> >> -- >> cheers, >> Thorsten >> >> > >