From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Oleh Subject: Re: org-speed-commands-default 1 2 3 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:02:40 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8D04F1BE-A07B-4571-A991-B2D24484CD50@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7PrZ-0007Cx-6U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:02:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7PrW-0007J0-9C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:02:45 -0400 Received: from mail-bk0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4008:c01::22f]:62728) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7PrW-0007If-3e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:02:42 -0400 Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id mx12so660482bkb.34 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 06:02:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8D04F1BE-A07B-4571-A991-B2D24484CD50@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: org mode On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On 23.7.2013, at 15:48, Oleh wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've recently started using `org-use-speed-commands', and I like it a lot, >> except I had to make one tweak: >> >> (setq org-use-speed-commands t) >> (setq org-speed-commands-user >> '(("1" . (org-shifttab 1)) >> ("2" . (org-shifttab 2)) >> ("3" . (org-shifttab 3)))) >> >> The corresponding values of `org-speed-commands-default' aren't that useful >> for GTD: >> >> ("1" org-priority 65) >> ("2" org-priority 66) >> ("3" org-priority 67) > > That depends on wether you work with priorities. I find S-TAB easy enough, so I do not > really see the need for speed commands here. Maybe I should elaborate my point of view on the usability. Priorities don't normally need "buttons" to jump between states, a "knob" is enough: only increase/decrease priority, not jump to priority 1, jump to priority 2 etc. Outlines, on the other hand, can benefit from the ability to jump between the levels of expansion. Level 1 is very useful - it minimizes everything, showing the structure of the file. S-TAB is useful and simple, but you have to repeat several times, checking each time if it has brought you to the level that you wanted to be on. Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB. For my gtd.org, it shows the tasks and appointments, without expanding them, as well as the project names, but not what they contain. This gives a nice overview of my projects. Level 3 is very useful - and cannot be reached by S-TAB. It shows me the separate TODOs for my projects, without revealing my notes on them, just the headings. I even bound the rest of the digits to levels and it is useful sometimes. In my opinion, these shortcuts make org-mode a better outlining tool, and should be given priority before the priority shortcuts. Slightly off-topic, these type of shortcuts is why I use Ubuntu Unity (I think I managed to turn off the spying). It's got a feature that Super+1-9 switches between applications in the sidebar slots 1-9. Sure, it's possible to do with Alt-TAB, and that's what most other desktops do, but Super+1-9 is superior, since you don't have to wait for feedback, you instantly get what you want. regards, Oleh