From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ista Zahn Subject: Re: Conducting end user surveys and analyze data (was: Org-mode to feed a database) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:05:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87k31acov5.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> <99D74CD0-215E-463F-86BE-21BD99809341@agrarianresearch.org> <2014-12-31T11-24-01@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d37da7fbe71050b82c311 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6Iy4-0006zZ-63 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:05:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6Iy2-0007AT-5g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:05:39 -0500 Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]:55914) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6Iy1-0007AN-W6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:05:38 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id va8so48165227obc.3 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 05:05:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2014-12-31T11-24-01@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Karl Voit Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist --001a113d37da7fbe71050b82c311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Dec 31, 2014 5:38 AM, "Karl Voit" wrote: > > * Vikas Rawal wrote: > > > > But there would be many interesting things one could do in an > > emacs/org-based solution. My biggest worry is that it would > > require continuous training of people coming in to enter data. > > I think you can differ between the data entry platform and the > platform where you analyze the data. > > You do have to train people using Emacs/Org-mode as well. > > When I was a researcher, I used SurveyMonkey for my surveys. It's > open source and web-based. You get the data in CSV files AFAIR. No, I don't believe surveymonkey is open source. Perhaps you are thinking of limesurvey? > > I also tested Google Drive (spreadsheet) forms which were very easy > to set up. However, the person filling out the survey needs a Google > Drive account. No, that is not true. You don't need a google account to fill in a Google drive form. The results were exported in various formats AFAIR. > > So, choosing a well known interface type (web-based forms) for > end-users and choosing a separate power-tool for analysis (R, > Org-mode, ...) is not a bad idea IMHO. I agree that doing it in emacs doesn't make sense from a productivity standpoint. The only reason to do something like this in emacs is because it would be cool and increase your geek cred. Best, Ista > > -- > mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < > > https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github > > --001a113d37da7fbe71050b82c311 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Dec 31, 2014 5:38 AM, "Karl Voit" <devnull@karl-voit.at> wrote:
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> * Vikas Rawal <v= ikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> wrote:
> >
> > But there would be many interesting things one could do in an
> > emacs/org-based solution. My=C2=A0 biggest worry is that it would=
> > require continuous training of people coming in to enter data. >
> I think you can differ between the data entry platform and the
> platform where you analyze the data.
>
> You do have to train people using Emacs/Org-mode as well.
>
> When I was a researcher, I used SurveyMonkey for my surveys. It's<= br> > open source and web-based. You get the data in CSV files AFAIR.

No, I don't believe surveymonkey is open source. Perhaps= you are thinking of limesurvey?

>
> I also tested Google Drive (spreadsheet) forms which were very easy > to set up. However, the person filling out the survey needs a Google > Drive account.

No, that is not true. You don't need a google account to= fill in a Google drive form.

The results were exported in various formats AFAIR.
>
> So, choosing a well known interface type (web-based forms) for
> end-users and choosing a separate power-tool for analysis (R,
> Org-mode, ...) is not a bad idea IMHO.

I agree that doing it in emacs doesn't make sense from a= productivity standpoint. The only reason to do something like this in emac= s is because it would be cool and increase your geek cred.

Best,
Ista

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> mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <
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> https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more = on github
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