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Thank you for your efforts and I truly am sorry for everything you've been put through emotionally. I know very well how a few particularly nasty comments can sap your energy as the brain cycles on them over and over. I hope you come out of this the stronger and so does the project On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 17:44 Karl Voit wrote: > Hi, > > I've summarized my current state of mind about the whole Orgdown > fiasco into a blog article: > https://karl-voit.at/2021/12/02/Orgdown-feedback/ > > Don't worry, I tried to analyze my own faults as well so that others > might be able to learn from this unfortunate situation. > > -- > get mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML into Org-mode: > > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < > Personal Information Management > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/pim/ > Emacs-related > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/emacs/ > > > --00000000000043751105d22053f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you for writing all this down Karl. Thank you for y= our efforts and I truly am sorry for everything you've been put through= emotionally. I know very well how a few particularly nasty comments can sa= p your energy as the brain cycles on them over and over.
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I hope you come out of this the stronger and so = does the project

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 17:44 Karl Voit <devnull@karl-voit.at> wrote:
Hi,

I've summarized my current state of mind about the whole Orgdown
fiasco into a blog article:
https://karl-voit.at/2021/12/02/Orgdown-= feedback/

Don't worry, I tried to analyze my own faults as well so that others might be able to learn from this unfortunate situation.

--
get mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML into Org-mode:<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> get Memacs from https://g= ithub.com/novoid/Memacs <
Personal Information Management > http://Karl-Voit.at/tag= s/pim/
Emacs-related > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/emacs/


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