From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Martins Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:29:45 -0200 Message-ID: References: <87zkl1tv44.fsf@gnu.org> <2011-06-29T22-26-24@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <996130F9-9522-4C0C-923B-A3569336F688@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41645) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RPwbb-0001qV-EU for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:29:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RPwba-0004dL-5l for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:29:47 -0500 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:52653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RPwba-0004dB-3U for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:29:46 -0500 Received: by qam6 with SMTP id 6so1980370qam.0 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:29:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" 2011/11/14 Daniel Martins : > I would like to see just the preamble of these org files prepared to > replace LaTeX files > > Daniel > > 2011/6/30 Carsten Dominik : >> >> On 30.6.2011, at 08:35, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> >>> Aloha Karl, >>> >>> I agree that AucTeX is awesome. =A0I use it every day at work with much >>> pleasure. >>> >>> I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible >>> research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. =A0In= my >>> case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass >>> results between code blocks written in different languages. =A0I can't = do >>> these things in AucTeX. >>> >>> At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and >>> LaTeX. =A0I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little thin= gs >>> work right. =A0I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd lik= e >>> from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently >>> that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode. >> >> Are these publicly accessible? =A0I think that would be a great advertis= ement >> for Org as a publishing environment if you could link to source and pape= r.... >> >> - Carsten >> >>> The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. =A0I'm really liking it as >> >> >>> an >>> authoring environment. >>> >>> All the best, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> Karl Voit writes: >>> >>>> * Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>>>> Aloha Rafael, >>>> >>>> Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of >>>> view. >>>> >>>> First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now >>>> and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners. >>>> >>>>> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? =A0I find >>>>> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in indir= ect >>>>> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. =A0For my work, tha= t >>>>> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files. >>>> >>>> I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that >>>> you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via >>>> LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode. >>>> >>>> On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written >>>> very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to >>>> add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting >>>> this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too >>>> and so forth. >>>> >>>> In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick >>>> to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune >>>> because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for >>>> LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and >>>> RefTeX). >>>> >>>> I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents, >>>> where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part >>>> to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document >>>> content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for >>>> writing documents that end up being great PDFs. >>>> >>>> But this is just my point of view. >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas S. Dye >>> http://www.tsdye.com >>> >> >> >> >