From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gustav_Wikstr=C3=B6m?= Subject: Re: Formal description of Org files Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:41:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87lhp6x0km.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45611) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XaVD0-0005mN-Do for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 15:41:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XaVCz-0001Ag-97 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 15:41:38 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232]:35752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XaVCz-0001Ab-4k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 15:41:37 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c9so2508031qcz.9 for ; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 12:41:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87lhp6x0km.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Gustav_Wikstr=C3=B6m?= , Org Mode List Hi! > Just curious: what is it you wish to do in a mobile environment. I have > everything I need with MobileOrg and running full emacs + org on an > OpenPandora. Obviously, your needs may be different than mine. > > (email composed on train offline on my OpenPandora in Emacs with gnus ;-) > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.1, Org release_8.3beta-372-gdd70cf My wish is to be able to do mostly everything related to task-tracking, scheduling, working with references and so on. General GTD stuff. OpenPandora sounds neat, except it's not quite the standard tool available out there ;-) And a general idea of Emacs in your pocket is nice, except it's not really possible without a different UI than the keyboard. So; what way forward with GTD in Emacs Org-mode then, while still having the wish of it to be more accessible? Thus the idea of a more formal (and parsable) grammar in a standardized format. My hope is that it will make Org-mode more general than it already is. As I said already; Org-mode to me is more than Emacs. To think BIG, Org-mode grammar could be a standard for PIM or GTD related software. To think a bit less big, it might help developers create software with non-Emacs tools. By using the formal grammar to work with Org-mode source documents in more accessible ways. Maybe with UI's available through mobile phones or tablets (and without the use of special schedules of read/write in Emacs to keep the mobile system synced; MobileOrg). I have to admit I might be overstating the importance of Org-mode formal grammar with this goal in mind. I haven't used EBNF-parsers and don't really know how powerful they can be. Reading about those things give high hopes though. Best regards Gustav