Re: org-icons package

[Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com>]

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Hi Renzo,

org-icons needs to be moved into contrib/, hooked in via a lightweight patch
against org.el, instead of being implemented as a monolithic change to
org.el. I made a start on that in this branch:

https://github.com/dandavison/org-devel/tree/org-icons

but I'm not sure that I got very far. Note that that is a branch in a clone
of the org repo, as opposed to the org-icons repos which are standalone
repos and do not contain org.

I thought org-icons was interesting because it offers the possibility of
allowing users to make arbitrary superficial changes to org aesthetics. For
example, the #+begin_src...#+end_src boilerplate is rather heavy for some
peoples' tastes. At one point I had it replacing that with a little (ruby,
snake) for (ruby, python) code... But I think it also allows the possibility
of overlaying with text. I'd be happy to give you push access to that repo,
but, you may as well just fork it as I have no plans to work on it.

I don't know how to contact Nicolas. I believe that he is on record as
saying he did not plan to develop org-icons further.

Good luck,

Dan

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Renzo Been <swangdoodles@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan, Nicolas and list,
>
> In my previous mail I wrote about using (and upgrading it for use with the
> latest version of org-mode) Nicolas Girard's org-icons package, see:
> http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?group=gmane.emacs.orgmode&article=44834
>
> I've tried to contact Nicolas Girard (via e-mail and a google search). But
> I
> have not heard back from him as yet.
>
> When I checked the github for org-icons again I discovered that there was a
> second branch by Dan Davison.
> https://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/tree/dan
>
> Dan,
>
> Do you know how I can get in contact with Nicolas? Or do you have access to
> the github for org-icons, so that it's code can be updated to work with the
> latest version of org-mode? Did you and Nicolas ever think about including
> org-icons into org-mode?
>
> As for me, I'm happily using org-icons with org-mode 7.7, I've attached a
> new
> and updated patch file that works on the latest org.el
>
> Copy the patch "org-icons.patch" to the directory where you keep your
> "org.el"
> cd to that directory
> And then apply the patch like this:
> patch -b org.el org-icons.patch
>
> Of-course, if neither of you has the time to work on org-icons... I could
> make
> a fork of the git repo, and make the changes myself. However, I do not have
> much elisp knowledge...
>
> Ciao,
> Renzo
>
> On 25 July 2011 12:12, Renzo Been <swangdoodles@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:
>
> >> Hi Philipp,
>
> >> Philipp Haselwarter <philipp.haselwarter <at> gmx.de> writes:
>
> >> > Is there any particular reason for it to be hardcoded? Apart from the
> >> > fact that /well it just is this way right now/ I mean.
>
> >> Nothing carved in stone, but here are the two reasons I see:
>
> >> - we don't want users to use arbitrary regexp to match headlines as they
> >>   are very likely to shoot themselves in the foot (Harven's example of
> >>   using "-" instead of "*" is a good example of that.)
>
> >> - Given this, I am not able to imagine a good way of limiting the number
> >>   of allowed characters.
>
> >> > That'd be useful information for anyone interested in changing it.
>
> >> I'd interested in any solution to the problems above.
>
> >> > Then
> >> > you can still just tell them to write a patch if they care that much
> >> > ('cause even in org-mode-land patches don't write themselves just yet)
>
> >> :)
>
> >> > [I just had the most awesome idea for a feature request].
>
> >> Please share!
>
> >> > If it's "just" about inheriting from a variable in some 300 places it
> >> > could at least be discussed.
>
> >> Yep -- if you have the energy to go through the code and see where it is
> >> hardcoded while it should not, please do.
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I was just thinking... If you want to change the "look" of the
> > org-headlines. Does one really need to change the code?
>
> > I have been using Nicolas Girard's org-icons package for quite a while.
> And
> > that makes org-buffers look pretty nice. You can even customise the
> icons, to
> > make it look the way you want.
>
> > However, some things about the org-icons package... It seems to be a
> little
> > outdated.  Are there many org-moders out there still using it?  Were
> there
> > ever any plans to include it in the org-distribution? Right now it needs
> to be
> > installed by hand, because the patch to org.el is outdated...  Also, I
> need to
> > load it two times in my .emacs before the icons work...
>
> > Ciao,
> > Renzo
>
> > The org-icons can be found here:
> > Download from Nicolas Girard's github
> > http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons
> > On the Worg site I could only find screenshots, no other information...
> > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-screenshots.html
> > The list-message announcement for org-icons
> >
> http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c87zl2962um.fsf%40stats.ox.ac.uk%3e
> > And some list-messages discussing including the org-icons-patch into
> org-mode
> >
> http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c87zlbx3kvf.fsf%40kassiopeya.MSHEIMNETZ%3e
>

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