From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Recently emacs hangs on startup due to ESS Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 23:15:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <677933f341514f91beddea4dd8e60957@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> <3046bf7125624aef810750210b0c71b2@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> <39bdb14cfae24b73800180a7e23bbe60@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyBi0-0005z3-Om for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 00:15:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyBhz-0007uM-4V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 00:15:48 -0400 Received: from mail-qg0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22b]:36731) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyBhy-0007uH-UM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 00:15:47 -0400 Received: by qgf2 with SMTP id 2so24852167qgf.3 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 21:15:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <39bdb14cfae24b73800180a7e23bbe60@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Cook, Malcolm" Cc: emacs-orgmode On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Cook, Malcolm wrote: > John, still recommend you try fresh ess, compiled via package manager. Also, update any packages needing updated. Maybe speedbar? So, I followed your nice ELPA instructions, and things worked. Then I wondered if it was compilation related, so I did that in my manually downloaded ESS dir and re-enabled my default load path (instead of ELPA), and no emacs hang. Then I run make clean, no hang. Then I do the emacs -Q method in my original email... hang. Then make again, no hang. Then make clean. No hang. I also played with ess-speedbar-use-p in case it's an issue with that, but at this point I feel like I can't reproducibly cause it to hang anymore so I don't know what in the world is going on. Definite wtf moment for me! Thanks for all of your input/suggestions! John > > I'm dry, > > Best, > > Malcolm > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Hendy [mailto:jw.hendy@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:24 PM >> To: Cook, Malcolm >> Cc: emacs-orgmode >> Subject: Re: [O] Recently emacs hangs on startup due to ESS >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Cook, Malcolm >> wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Cook, Malcolm >> >> wrote: >> >> > I would install latest ess fresh. >> >> >> >> I wondered about that as well, so I tried that prior to posting here. >> >> Sorry, I should have listed my version, which is now 15.03-1. >> >> >> >> > What version of emacs? The package manager is a moving target >> >> > these >> >> days. >> >> >> >> GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16.2) >> >> (installed via Arch Linux standard package) >> >> >> >> > Try to use the package manager to interactively install the latest >> >> > >> >> >> - emacs -Q >> >> >> following: >> >> >> >> http://melpa.org/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#/getting- >> >> star >> >> >> ted >> >> >> - putting this in the buffer >> >> > >> >> > (require 'package) ;; You might already have this line (add-to-list >> >> > 'package-archives >> >> > '("melpa" . "http://melpa.org/packages/") t) (when (< >> >> > emacs-major-version 24) >> >> > ;; For important compatibility libraries like cl-lib >> >> > (add-to-list 'package-archives '("gnu" . >> >> > "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/"))) >> >> > (package-initialize) ;; You might already have this line >> >> > >> >> >> >> I could do this, though I've sort of decided to steer away from >> >> packages and just manage things manually via my ~/.elisp/site-lisp >> >> folder. Would this have an affect? My process was to simply download >> >> the .zip of ESS, and unpack to ~/.elisp/site-lisp/ess (after deleting >> >> the old version). This way, my .emacs can continue to point to >> >> ~/.elisp/site-lisp/ess/lisp regardless of what version I have. >> >> >> >> If manual vs. [m]elpa would make a difference, I suppose I could give >> >> the above a whirl. >> >> >> > >> > Well, you'll get everything compiled if you use the package manager. >> Worth it just for that! There are other ways to get those files byte-compiled, >> but the package manager is probably the best. >> >> ESS is sounding like compilation is optional, and I never have. >> - http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html#Installation >> >> > >> > Also, the package manager can help you discover when updates exist to >> ALL your eamcs packages. Worth learning for that. >> >> Definitely. I may look into that. I pretty much just use Org and R, so not super >> worried about it, but I really don't know enough to understand what other >> packages ship with emacs that I could/should be updating! >> >> > >> > OTOH, as I said, it has been in flux lately and is still a moving target. >> > >> > BTW, when did you last update emacs? >> >> $ grep emacs /var/log/pacman.log >> >> [2014-06-14 20:49] [PACMAN] upgraded emacs (24.3-6 -> 24.3-7) >> [2014-10-23 10:28] [PACMAN] upgraded emacs (24.3-7 -> 24.4-1) >> [2015-01-19 01:36] [ALPM] upgraded emacs (24.4-1 -> 24.4-2) >> [2015-04-20 13:14] [ALPM] upgraded emacs (24.4-2 -> 24.5-1) >> >> > >> > And, does (require 'ess-site) ALL BY ITSELF generate your error? >> > >> >> Yup, see the original email: >> >> #+begin_quote >> >> I can reproduce this with: >> - emacs -Q >> - putting this in the buffer >> >> (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/ess/lisp") (require 'ess-site) >> >> - M-x eval-region on the above two lines >> >> #+end_quote >> >> >> Thanks for the assistance! >> John >> >> > ~Malcolm >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> John >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> - M-x eval-region on the above lines >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Then, M-x list-packages and install it by positioning the cursor on >> >> > the line >> >> mentioning the ess package from melpa and typing "I". >> >> > >> >> > The type "x" to execute your decision, and confirm with "yes". >> >> > >> >> > Now, delete or move/hide your old ess bits and restart emacs. >> >> > >> >> > Did it work? >> >> > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+mec=stowers.org@gnu.org >> >> [mailto:emacs- >> >> >> orgmode-bounces+mec=stowers.org@gnu.org] On Behalf Of John >> Hendy >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:51 PM >> >> >> To: emacs-orgmode >> >> >> Subject: [O] Recently emacs hangs on startup due to ESS >> >> >> >> >> >> Over the past couple of weeks, I've been having some issues with >> >> >> emacs hanging on startup. I usually kill the process, but >> >> >> inadvertently left it in the background today, noting much later >> >> >> that it ended up starting. I played with commenting out various >> >> >> parts of my config until I narrowed things down to the line: >> >> >> >> >> >> (require 'ess-site) >> >> >> >> >> >> the message buffer displays "enabling speedbar support" for a >> >> >> reeeaaally long time before it eventually starts up. >> >> >> >> >> >> I tried debug-on-signal and eval-expression-debug-on-error... I'm >> >> >> not sure what is supposed to happen with debug options, but no >> >> >> debug buffer pops up. The only lines that appear relevant in >> *Messages* are: >> >> >> >> >> >> ad-handle-definition: `ess-indent-command' got redefined >> >> >> ad-handle-definition: `ess-eval-line-and-step' got redefined >> >> >> >> >> >> How might I diagnose this further?. I'm not familiar with chasing >> >> >> down Emacs issues other than narrowing it down to a config file >> option. >> >> >> >> >> >> I can reproduce this with: >> >> >> - emacs -Q >> >> >> - putting this in the buffer >> >> >> >> >> >> (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/ess/lisp") (require 'ess-site) >> >> >> >> >> >> - M-x eval-region on the above two lines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for any suggestions, >> >> >> John >> >> >