From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Recently emacs hangs on startup due to ESS Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <677933f341514f91beddea4dd8e60957@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> <3046bf7125624aef810750210b0c71b2@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36600) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yy79E-0000TI-75 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 19:23:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yy79B-0007sX-Ow for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 19:23:36 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::234]:35145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yy79B-0007sT-JH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 19:23:33 -0400 Received: by qchk10 with SMTP id k10so21089638qch.2 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:23:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3046bf7125624aef810750210b0c71b2@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Cook, Malcolm" Cc: emacs-orgmode On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Cook, Malcolm wrote: >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Cook, Malcolm >> wrote: >> > I would install latest ess fresh. >> >> I wondered about that as well, so I tried that prior to posting here. >> Sorry, I should have listed my version, which is now 15.03-1. >> >> > What version of emacs? The package manager is a moving target these >> days. >> >> GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16.2) >> (installed via Arch Linux standard package) >> >> > Try to use the package manager to interactively install the latest >> > >> >> - emacs -Q >> >> following: >> >> http://melpa.org/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#/getting- >> star >> >> ted >> >> - putting this in the buffer >> > >> > (require 'package) ;; You might already have this line (add-to-list >> > 'package-archives >> > '("melpa" . "http://melpa.org/packages/") t) (when (< >> > emacs-major-version 24) >> > ;; For important compatibility libraries like cl-lib >> > (add-to-list 'package-archives '("gnu" . >> > "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/"))) >> > (package-initialize) ;; You might already have this line >> > >> >> I could do this, though I've sort of decided to steer away from packages and >> just manage things manually via my ~/.elisp/site-lisp folder. Would this have >> an affect? My process was to simply download the .zip of ESS, and unpack to >> ~/.elisp/site-lisp/ess (after deleting the old version). This way, my .emacs can >> continue to point to ~/.elisp/site-lisp/ess/lisp regardless of what version I >> have. >> >> If manual vs. [m]elpa would make a difference, I suppose I could give the >> above a whirl. >> > > Well, you'll get everything compiled if you use the package manager. Worth it just for that! There are other ways to get those files byte-compiled, but the package manager is probably the best. ESS is sounding like compilation is optional, and I never have. - http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html#Installation > > Also, the package manager can help you discover when updates exist to ALL your eamcs packages. Worth learning for that. Definitely. I may look into that. I pretty much just use Org and R, so not super worried about it, but I really don't know enough to understand what other packages ship with emacs that I could/should be updating! > > OTOH, as I said, it has been in flux lately and is still a moving target. > > BTW, when did you last update emacs? $ grep emacs /var/log/pacman.log [2014-06-14 20:49] [PACMAN] upgraded emacs (24.3-6 -> 24.3-7) [2014-10-23 10:28] [PACMAN] upgraded emacs (24.3-7 -> 24.4-1) [2015-01-19 01:36] [ALPM] upgraded emacs (24.4-1 -> 24.4-2) [2015-04-20 13:14] [ALPM] upgraded emacs (24.4-2 -> 24.5-1) > > And, does (require 'ess-site) ALL BY ITSELF generate your error? > Yup, see the original email: #+begin_quote I can reproduce this with: - emacs -Q - putting this in the buffer (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/ess/lisp") (require 'ess-site) - M-x eval-region on the above two lines #+end_quote Thanks for the assistance! John > ~Malcolm > > >> >> Best regards, >> John >> >> > >> >> >> >> - M-x eval-region on the above lines >> >> >> > >> > Then, M-x list-packages and install it by positioning the cursor on the line >> mentioning the ess package from melpa and typing "I". >> > >> > The type "x" to execute your decision, and confirm with "yes". >> > >> > Now, delete or move/hide your old ess bits and restart emacs. >> > >> > Did it work? >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+mec=stowers.org@gnu.org >> [mailto:emacs- >> >> orgmode-bounces+mec=stowers.org@gnu.org] On Behalf Of John Hendy >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:51 PM >> >> To: emacs-orgmode >> >> Subject: [O] Recently emacs hangs on startup due to ESS >> >> >> >> Over the past couple of weeks, I've been having some issues with >> >> emacs hanging on startup. I usually kill the process, but >> >> inadvertently left it in the background today, noting much later that >> >> it ended up starting. I played with commenting out various parts of >> >> my config until I narrowed things down to the line: >> >> >> >> (require 'ess-site) >> >> >> >> the message buffer displays "enabling speedbar support" for a >> >> reeeaaally long time before it eventually starts up. >> >> >> >> I tried debug-on-signal and eval-expression-debug-on-error... I'm not >> >> sure what is supposed to happen with debug options, but no debug >> >> buffer pops up. The only lines that appear relevant in *Messages* are: >> >> >> >> ad-handle-definition: `ess-indent-command' got redefined >> >> ad-handle-definition: `ess-eval-line-and-step' got redefined >> >> >> >> How might I diagnose this further?. I'm not familiar with chasing >> >> down Emacs issues other than narrowing it down to a config file option. >> >> >> >> I can reproduce this with: >> >> - emacs -Q >> >> - putting this in the buffer >> >> >> >> (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/ess/lisp") (require 'ess-site) >> >> >> >> - M-x eval-region on the above two lines >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for any suggestions, >> >> John >> >