From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Organizing by time or by subject and an idea Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:07:43 -0600 Message-ID: References: <871uq2azxv.fsf@norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38039) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rw2NO-0001WB-Cj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rw2NN-0000SM-3P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:46 -0500 Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:37690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rw2NM-0000SI-QS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:45 -0500 Received: by bkty12 with SMTP id y12so574287bkt.0 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:07:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <871uq2azxv.fsf@norang.ca> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: emacs-orgmode On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > John Hendy writes: > >> I got food feedback as far as the "snapshots" inquiry, but am still >> not settled on the time vs. topic hierarchy strategy (definite thanks >> to Bernt and Eric Fraga!). I thought of a specific situation that >> might help with receiving feedback. >> >> I think were I solely working as an individual, the structure Bernt >> suggested would work. Essentially: >> >> * todo Some bigger task >> ** todo subtask 1 >> ** todo subtask 2 >> >> And so on. Basically -- lay out the steps you think you need to do to >> complete it... and complete it. Store notes under the todos and you're >> good to go. >> >> But I work with a team. Some todos are dependent on input from the >> team... Consider this example: >> >> * todo some bigger task >> ** todo decide on what color to make the widgets for the three field tes= ts >> ** todo subtask 2 >> >> Now, let's say I have a team meeting where my marketer tells me the >> decision for the widget colors: >> - field test 1: red >> - field test 2: blue >> - field test 3 green >> >> I have [at least] two options: >> >> * todo some bigger task >> ** done decide on what color to make the widgets for the three field tes= ts >> - field test 1: red >> - field test 2: blue >> - field test 3 green >> >> or... >> >> * Team Meeting Summaries >> ** [timestamp] Team Update >> Alice informed us of the color decisions: >> - field test 1: red >> - field test 2: blue >> - field test 3 green >> >> >> I feel stuck in situations like this... I need to reproduce minutes >> and thus it makes sense to keep the information with the chronological >> event in which it occurred. I also know that it fits a larger project >> structure and fulfills some task. I don't think duplicating it is the >> way to go... > > Hi John, > > In situations like this I keep the notes from the meeting in my > 'meeting' task and create duplicate TODO tasks from the items in the > meeting. =C2=A0This way my meeting notes are coherent and complete, and I= 'm > free to do whatever I want with the created subtasks without touching my > meeting notes. > Gotcha. So keep things with the "event" in which they occurred/action was taken and recreate what is necessary elsewhere for documentation or coherence (as in, why the todo is able to be marked done due to the meeting). > ie. > > ** DONE Meet with team > =C2=A0 Notes from team meeting go here > =C2=A0 field test 1: red > =C2=A0 field test 2: blue > > then if I have another task for > > ** TODO Determine colour for field test 1 > > I'll make it done and either link it to the team meeting task, or just > copy in the details I need so I can see immediately from the task what > colour was chosen. > Thanks for clarifying, and this squares with what I saw the options as -- recreate or link. I don't know why, but I just have these mini-existential crises about org-mode organization. I continually feel like once I *finally* get my de-facto system in place I can just shut up and use the tool rather than thinking about *how* to use the tool all the time. Sigh... Thanks for helping me! John > HTH, > Bernt