From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file? Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:17:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5202BEAC.3040802@online.de> <20130807221216.GA8176@cardamom.adamsinfoserv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7C3I-0008Gh-8f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:17:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7C3G-0001Qx-Ol for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:17:56 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22c]:47743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7C3G-0001Qr-IU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:17:54 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l20so4455532oag.3 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:17:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130807221216.GA8176@cardamom.adamsinfoserv.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Russell Adams wrote: > John, > > I have a 17,000 file I work out of constantly in Org 7.8.10 with very > little lag. Just another data point. Is it inconvenient for you to git pull and try on Org 8.0 to see if there's any difference? John > > Thanks. > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 05:06:51PM -0500, John Hendy wrote: >> Just an update: >> - I reverted back to commit release_8.0.2-73-g9998f2 (early May) with >> no change in behavior, so perhaps it wasn't anything other than >> growing file size >> - I just created archive files for work journal entries in 2011 and >> 2012, storing them in separate archive files >> - I'm now down to ~6500 lines, and lag is unnoticeable >> >> Perhaps there's some magical cutoff between 6,000 and 10,000 lines >> that starts to really bog things down? >> >> >> >> John >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, John Hendy wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rainer Stengele >> > wrote: >> >> Am 07.08.2013 22:25, schrieb John Hendy: >> >>> Greetings, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I just started experiencing major lag in Org-mode on my main work >> >>> notes file, which is at about 10k lines. Is that getting up to the >> >>> point where files get unwieldy? In googling around, I found a few >> >>> suggestions: >> >>> >> >>> - Fiddle with linum settings >> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229705/emacs-org-mode-turn-off-line-numbers >> >>> >> >>> I set linum-eager to off and linum-delay to on for the current setting >> >>> via the customize interface and didn't perceive an effect. Any >> >>> keystroke in my org file takes 1-2 seconds to appear. >> >>> >> >>> - Fontification? >> >>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45197 >> >>> >> >>> Comments there have files in the 5-137k line range and many say >> >>> there's no/little lag unless running agenda commands. >> >>> >> >>> Any other suggestions? I use this file almost daily, mostly for >> >>> reference, not adding... that's to say it hasn't grown majorly in the >> >>> past even 3months (maybe a few hundred lines), but performance >> >>> *definitely* wasn't anything like this until the last week or so. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. >> >>> In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see >> >>> if that does anything for me. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Best regards, >> >>> John >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> just jumping on the bandwagon. >> >> My one and only "biggest" issue with wonderful Orgmode is slow Emacs. >> >> I run Emacs on i7 hardware with lots of memory and still have an Emacs Orgmode that answers rather slowly. >> >> Slow meaning it is just not snappy at all. Creating any aganda takes several seconds which is a long time to wait >> >> for the result. I already spent a lot of thought into how to optimise the performance of my system, archiving and >> >> splitting Org files, using sticky agenda etc. >> >> I know there is no quick solution to the slowness because of the limitation of threading in Emacs - I just wanted >> >> to mention that very "unmodern" behaviour of Emacs running Orgmode. I have to use Windows 7 so this makes it even >> >> slower. I assume my environment would run faster on Linux. >> >> >> > >> > I'm running Arch Linux 64bit on an HP EliteBook 8540w with an i7 and >> > 8G of RAM. HD is 54% full at present. I agree that this shouldn't be a >> > big burden, and whatever happened recently really made this unusable >> > for me. Oddly, generating an agenda only takes a couple of seconds, >> > which is plenty fast for me, even using search. >> > >> >> So yes, this is nothing more than something like a rant. >> >> For me Orgmode is still the killer app in Emacs, it is just sad to have a slow environment on quite modern >> >> hardware with some bigger Org files. >> >> My files are of size: >> >> >> >> $ wc *org >> >> 124 1690 31670 file1.org >> >> 1555 11829 97805 file2.org >> >> 35022 262820 2314234 file3.org >> >> 999 4968 105854 file4.org >> >> 557 4029 30586 file5.org >> >> 2523 20324 162165 file6.org >> >> 2447 19974 139768 file7.org >> >> 689 4703 36495 file8.org >> >> 6789 58782 461211 file9.org >> >> 53078 403126 3531142 total >> >> >> > >> > $ wc *.org >> > 23 90 867 bibliography.org >> > 42 192 1756 clocking.org >> > 2137 18286 122303 devel.org >> > 9837 74994 494234 projects.org >> > 1536 9692 77261 reference.org >> > 1057 6673 48309 tf.org >> > 14632 109927 744730 total >> > >> > projects.org is my most used file by far, and the biggest, but nothing >> > compared to some of the folks posting on the link I showed who have >> > 30-130k line files! >> > >> > >> > John >> > >> >> Rainer >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com > > PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ > > Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 >