From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Way to replace normal tabular env with booktabs? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Thomas S. Dye" Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode , Carsten Dominik On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > John Hendy writes: > >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Nick Dokos wrote= : >>> John Hendy wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>>> > Hi John, >>>> > >>>> > I had the same experience. =C2=A0When I restarted Emacs, it was ther= e. >>>> > What's more, it appears to work. =C2=A0I haven't had time to explore >>>> > thoroughly but the initial test worked out of the box. >>>> >>>> I've restarted... still nothing. >>>> >>>> ,--- >>>> | Org-mode version 7.8.03 (release_7.8.03.330.gc804) >>>> `--- >>>> >>>> Just did another fresh pull, made sure I'm on master, and still don't = have it. >>>> >>> >>> ... oh, one more thing: to use it, *don't do* C-c C-e (that will give >>> you the standard exporter). You have to invoke it explicitly with >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 M-x org-export-dispatch RET >> >> Got it. Works. What's the status on this exporter? I have settings in >> a setupfile for latex export, which this (obviously) doesn't pick up >> since it's bypassing. Thus, it looks like I'll have to set individual >> options via the org-e-latex family of variables. But... it might be >> nice to know when this will be pulled in. Should I invest in it or >> stick to the normal exporter for now (which does work with the >> booktabs patch)? > > The LaTeX and ASCII backends are still in EXPERIMENTAL. =C2=A0The underly= ing > parser, etc. are in contrib. > > I don't know if there is a schedule for moving this to the Org Mode > core, but it looks certain to make it there someday. > > My $0.02 would be to wait for it to move to core and have some > documentation outside the docstrings in the .el files and the occasional > message to the list. > Cool -- thanks for the feedback. > At this point Nicolas welcomes comments, so if you have time to > experiment with it you might be able to help him out. > I just may! This will be hobby-ish, so we'll see. The current exporter works so well and the booktabs patch is handling my workflow find, so not sure I have huge incentive to try something new at this point, but still might try it out. > I'm using it now on a real project with a distant time horizon. =C2=A0The > document is still simple, but the experimental LaTeX exporter is doing a > good job. =C2=A0I'm finding it relatively easy to configure. > Yes -- the variables in the group seemed super clear/transparent. Thanks again for the input, John > All the best, > Tom > >> >> >> Thanks, >> John >> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> > >>>> > All the best, >>>> > Tom >>>> > >>>> > John Hendy writes: >>>> > >>>> >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >>>> >>> Hello, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Niels Giesen writes: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I say: go for it! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Booktabs are available in e-latex backend, through "booktabs=3Dyes= " >>>> >>> attribute or org-e-latex-tables-booktabs variable. >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> This is currently implemented? I just did a pull and don't get any >>>> >> results for the variable org-e[xport]-latex-booktabs... >>>> >> >>>> >> Sorry if I didn't understand how you implemented it. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> JOhn >>>> >> >>>> >>> I don't make use of :skipheadrule yet, since it's not in tree. Spe= aking >>>> >>> about it, it should be a good idea to including a line about it in >>>> >>> `orgtbl-to-generic' docstring. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Regards, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Nicolas Goaziou >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Thomas S. Dye >>>> > http://www.tsdye.com >>>> >> > > -- > Thomas S. Dye > http://www.tsdye.com