Re: Way to replace normal tabular env with booktabs?

[John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
>>> John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi John,
>>>> >
>>>> > I had the same experience.  When I restarted Emacs, it was there.
>>>> > What's more, it appears to work.  I haven't had time to explore
>>>> > thoroughly but the initial test worked out of the box.
>>>>
>>>> I've restarted... still nothing.
>>>>
>>>> ,---
>>>> | Org-mode version 7.8.03 (release_7.8.03.330.gc804)
>>>> `---
>>>>
>>>> Just did another fresh pull, made sure I'm on master, and still don't have it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ... oh, one more thing: to use it, *don't do* C-c C-e (that will give
>>> you the standard exporter). You have to invoke it explicitly with
>>>
>>>           M-x org-export-dispatch RET
>>
>> Got it. Works. What's the status on this exporter? I have settings in
>> a setupfile for latex export, which this (obviously) doesn't pick up
>> since it's bypassing. Thus, it looks like I'll have to set individual
>> options via the org-e-latex family of variables. But... it might be
>> nice to know when this will be pulled in. Should I invest in it or
>> stick to the normal exporter for now (which does work with the
>> booktabs patch)?
>
> The LaTeX and ASCII backends are still in EXPERIMENTAL.  The underlying
> parser, etc. are in contrib.
>
> I don't know if there is a schedule for moving this to the Org Mode
> core, but it looks certain to make it there someday.
>
> My $0.02 would be to wait for it to move to core and have some
> documentation outside the docstrings in the .el files and the occasional
> message to the list.
>

Cool -- thanks for the feedback.

> At this point Nicolas welcomes comments, so if you have time to
> experiment with it you might be able to help him out.
>

I just may! This will be hobby-ish, so we'll see. The current exporter
works so well and the booktabs patch is handling my workflow find, so
not sure I have huge incentive to try something new at this point, but
still might try it out.

> I'm using it now on a real project with a distant time horizon.  The
> document is still simple, but the experimental LaTeX exporter is doing a
> good job.  I'm finding it relatively easy to configure.
>

Yes -- the variables in the group seemed super clear/transparent.

Thanks again for the input,
John

> All the best,
> Tom
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > All the best,
>>>> > Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Niels Giesen <niels.giesen@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I say: go for it!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Booktabs are available in e-latex backend, through "booktabs=yes"
>>>> >>> attribute or org-e-latex-tables-booktabs variable.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This is currently implemented? I just did a pull and don't get any
>>>> >> results for the variable org-e[xport]-latex-booktabs...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sorry if I didn't understand how you implemented it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> JOhn
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I don't make use of :skipheadrule yet, since it's not in tree. Speaking
>>>> >>> about it, it should be a good idea to including a line about it in
>>>> >>> `orgtbl-to-generic' docstring.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> Nicolas Goaziou
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Thomas S. Dye
>>>> > http://www.tsdye.com
>>>>
>>
>
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> Thomas S. Dye
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