From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file? Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:06:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5202BEAC.3040802@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7Bse-0003VM-BE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:06:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7Bsa-0005uY-1n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:06:56 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22e]:42706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7BsZ-0005uO-RX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:06:51 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id l10so4302150oag.5 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:06:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rainer Stengele Cc: emacs-orgmode Just an update: - I reverted back to commit release_8.0.2-73-g9998f2 (early May) with no change in behavior, so perhaps it wasn't anything other than growing file size - I just created archive files for work journal entries in 2011 and 2012, storing them in separate archive files - I'm now down to ~6500 lines, and lag is unnoticeable Perhaps there's some magical cutoff between 6,000 and 10,000 lines that starts to really bog things down? John On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, John Hendy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rainer Stengele > wrote: >> Am 07.08.2013 22:25, schrieb John Hendy: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> >>> I just started experiencing major lag in Org-mode on my main work >>> notes file, which is at about 10k lines. Is that getting up to the >>> point where files get unwieldy? In googling around, I found a few >>> suggestions: >>> >>> - Fiddle with linum settings >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229705/emacs-org-mode-turn-off-line-numbers >>> >>> I set linum-eager to off and linum-delay to on for the current setting >>> via the customize interface and didn't perceive an effect. Any >>> keystroke in my org file takes 1-2 seconds to appear. >>> >>> - Fontification? >>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45197 >>> >>> Comments there have files in the 5-137k line range and many say >>> there's no/little lag unless running agenda commands. >>> >>> Any other suggestions? I use this file almost daily, mostly for >>> reference, not adding... that's to say it hasn't grown majorly in the >>> past even 3months (maybe a few hundred lines), but performance >>> *definitely* wasn't anything like this until the last week or so. >>> >>> Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. >>> In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see >>> if that does anything for me. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> John >>> >>> >> Hi, >> >> just jumping on the bandwagon. >> My one and only "biggest" issue with wonderful Orgmode is slow Emacs. >> I run Emacs on i7 hardware with lots of memory and still have an Emacs Orgmode that answers rather slowly. >> Slow meaning it is just not snappy at all. Creating any aganda takes several seconds which is a long time to wait >> for the result. I already spent a lot of thought into how to optimise the performance of my system, archiving and >> splitting Org files, using sticky agenda etc. >> I know there is no quick solution to the slowness because of the limitation of threading in Emacs - I just wanted >> to mention that very "unmodern" behaviour of Emacs running Orgmode. I have to use Windows 7 so this makes it even >> slower. I assume my environment would run faster on Linux. >> > > I'm running Arch Linux 64bit on an HP EliteBook 8540w with an i7 and > 8G of RAM. HD is 54% full at present. I agree that this shouldn't be a > big burden, and whatever happened recently really made this unusable > for me. Oddly, generating an agenda only takes a couple of seconds, > which is plenty fast for me, even using search. > >> So yes, this is nothing more than something like a rant. >> For me Orgmode is still the killer app in Emacs, it is just sad to have a slow environment on quite modern >> hardware with some bigger Org files. >> My files are of size: >> >> $ wc *org >> 124 1690 31670 file1.org >> 1555 11829 97805 file2.org >> 35022 262820 2314234 file3.org >> 999 4968 105854 file4.org >> 557 4029 30586 file5.org >> 2523 20324 162165 file6.org >> 2447 19974 139768 file7.org >> 689 4703 36495 file8.org >> 6789 58782 461211 file9.org >> 53078 403126 3531142 total >> > > $ wc *.org > 23 90 867 bibliography.org > 42 192 1756 clocking.org > 2137 18286 122303 devel.org > 9837 74994 494234 projects.org > 1536 9692 77261 reference.org > 1057 6673 48309 tf.org > 14632 109927 744730 total > > projects.org is my most used file by far, and the biggest, but nothing > compared to some of the folks posting on the link I showed who have > 30-130k line files! > > > John > >> Rainer >>