Re: Format of Effort estimates should be mentioned in its Info node

[Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>]

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:20, Kisaragi Hiu <mail@kisaragi-hiu.com> wrote:
> 
> It didn't work for me because I gave it "10m" which actually means 10 months, I've realized.
> 
> Still, Durations as defined by org-duration.el should be described in the manual like how Timestamps are.

This does look like a potential contribution to the package.

Jean-Christophe Helary

> 
> 2020年1月4日 11:55 差出し人： kyle@kyleam.com:
> 
>> Kisaragi Hiu <mail@kisaragi-hiu.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Currently, the Info node about effort estimates does not mention what
>>> format should it be written in. This causes confusion, as a user might
>>> assume that it's the same format as schedulers (10m, 6h, etc.) like I
>>> did.
>>> 
>>> Simply mentioning "Effort estimates need to have the format H:MM"
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't personally use effort estimates, but quickly poking around I see
>> some indication that estimates should work fine with things like 10min
>> rather than 0:10.  In particular org-set-effort has a bit that looks
>> like this:
>> 
>> (org-refresh-property '((effort . identity)
>> (effort-minutes . org-duration-to-minutes))
>> value)
>> 
>> The presence of org-duration-to-minutes hints to some sort of
>> normalization:
>> 
>> (org-duration-to-minutes "10min") ; => 10.0
>> (org-duration-to-minutes "0:10")  ; => 10.0
>> 
>> And it looks like org-agenda-compare-effort uses the effort-minutes text
>> property.  That's presumably why, when I view the entries below in the
>> agenda, org-agenda-filter-by-effort (bound to "_") treats them the same:
>> 
>> * TODO a
>> :PROPERTIES:
>> :Effort:  10min
>> :END:
>> 
>> * TODO b
>> :PROPERTIES:
>> :Effort:   0:10
>> :END:
>> 
>> But that's just one use of effort values, and it sounds like you've hit
>> into cases where the 10min form didn't work as expected.  Could you
>> provide more details?
>> 
>>> (copied from the docstring or org-effort-property, the only*
>>> description of the format I could find) in the Info node would be
>>> enough.
>>> 
>> 
>> Given the above, it seems like org-effort-property's docstring is at
>> least somewhat inaccurate.
>> 
> 
> 

Jean-Christophe Helary
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