From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Brand Subject: Re: Why are special properties like CLOSED etc. not in the properties drawer? Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:27:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20110405133648.5e02e3e7@hsdev.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45900 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q7A2n-0008NG-5E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:27:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7A2l-0007ah-Dq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:27:57 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:56551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7A2l-0007aL-8Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:27:55 -0400 Received: by iwg8 with SMTP id 8so819580iwg.0 for ; Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:27:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110405133648.5e02e3e7@hsdev.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode , Marcel van der Boom , Bernt Hansen , Juri Krivov Hi all For many use cases I would like one of both opposites: 1) the option to have e. g. CLOSED: as :CLOSED: in a drawer and on its own line as mentioned before 2) the option to have e. g. :CATEGORY: without any drawer, like: * holidays :CATEGORY: holiday ** xmas <2011-12-25 Sun> ** new year <2012-01-01 Sun> instead of first looking at: * holidays :PROPERTIES:... ** xmas and then navigate to :PROPERTIES: to open it: * holidays :PROPERTIES: :CATEGORY: holiday :END: ** xmas To see the category directly, of course there are `C-u C-u C-u ', column view and maybe more, but these might not always be preferred. As a coincidence or not in the choice of the property for the example above, :CATEGORY: is the only special property that is allowed as a key in the properties drawer, see http://orgmode.org/manual/Special-properties.html and it is also the only special property that can not live (yet?) outside this drawer. Michael On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 13:36, Marcel van der Boom wrote: > Hi, > > I've been wondering about this for a bit. It would make things a bit > more consistent for me if all properties are in the 'properties'-drawer. > Or am I missing something here?