From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: Using orgmode to take "inline notes" for research Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55247 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q7WVa-0003tc-01 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:27:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7WVV-0001eK-TJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:27:09 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169]:45605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7WVV-0001dv-Qk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:27:05 -0400 Received: by yxt33 with SMTP id 33so804668yxt.0 for ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Hendy Cc: Jeff Horn , emacs-orgmode Hi John, They only solve half of the problem. Unbreakable bidirectional links using ID markers would solve the teleport problem. Both ends can be moved anyplace, including inside stretches of text. They are a little like a generalization of footnotes. They use org IDs. You can specify various things for export and appearance in the org buffer and so on. ID markers are a proposal in the list archives; they can be used for graph-theoretic applications. Bidirectional links are simply a pair of ID markers that are made to act as links also and that point to each other. However, you still need to figure out how to put notes at the top. I wonder if inline tasks can work for this. Maybe you can put a tag on each to specify that it is a note, then somehow export notes first, then everything except notes. I'm note sure how to design that to fit into org nicely. Maybe there is some way to do this: * Here is my whole document (by inclusion) (some kind of syntax here to say insert all :note: headlines) Here are the things the notes refer to. You can teleport to them. (some kind of syntax here to say insert all other headlines) Babel has something similar, but I don't know if it can do it. I have long wanted a way to include the body of a headline upon export (maybe it is possible now, dunno) and this is a generalization that lets you include all headlines with a certain tag or all headlines without it. We would want it to be useful for more purposes. Perhaps Extensible (i.e. universal) Syntax would allow flexibility here. It would prevent having to invent new syntax, because the same syntax is used for other features according to the car. * Here is my whole document (by inclusion) $[include :headlines-from-elisp (org-tags-view nil ":note:")] Here are the things the notes refer to. You can teleport to them. $[include :not-headlines-from-elisp (org-tags-view nil ":note:")] Samuel