From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Brand Subject: Re: Occurance property, or some similar name? Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:42:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d3ksqujv.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87oc4bxoew.fsf@fastmail.fm> <8739lnnqfb.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87wriyl2o6.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87oc4aky8m.fsf@dustycloud.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QA2D4-0007VD-Hg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:42:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QA2Cy-0002eV-KW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:42:26 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:53367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QA2Cy-0002eP-GI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:42:20 -0400 Received: by iwg8 with SMTP id 8so1004009iwg.0 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:42:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87oc4aky8m.fsf@dustycloud.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Christopher Allan Webber Cc: Matt Lundin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 16:43, Christopher Allan Webber wrote: > Michael Brand writes: >> * _appointment_ that _occurs_ at bike shop (keyword inside drawer) >> =A0:PROPERTIES: >> =A0:TIMESTAMP: <2011-04-12 Tue 19:00> >> =A0:END: >> * _appointment_ that _occurs_ at bike shop (keyword outside drawer) >> =A0:TIMESTAMP: <2011-04-12 Tue 19:00> >> * _appointment_ that _occurs_ at bike shop (keyword-less, at least for >> backward compatibility) >> =A0 <2011-04-12 Tue 19:00> > > Interesting, I like that style. =A0My main concern is that newer orgmode > files written in this form might break in older versions of orgmode. Are your concerns concrete? I have thought about and tested this already before: The three example items above show up in the agenda, and are still correct even after changing with `S->'. So this "newer/future" Org file format works even with the "older/today" Org software. This is because the Org software of today flexibly binds the special property TIMESTAMP per item to the first active timestamp (i. e. "<>", not "[]") that is not prefixed with `SCHEDULED: ' or `DEADLINE: '. This binding is the reason why I would stick to the name TIMESTAMP when it comes to possibly new features that should write this special property keyword explicitly for this kind of timestamp. The sibling (not `C-c .') of `C-c C-s'/`C-c C-d' that you suggested originally would be such a feature. Michael