From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: export to html and relative links: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:35:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: <18433.37101.453170.649918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.10211.460576.220006@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.13307.199469.747272@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <83DA18C3-10D2-4286-95BE-8E81EA1D0652@science.uva.nl> <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl7zJ-0001AQ-BG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:35:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl7zI-0001A9-K5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:35:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl7zI-0001A6-Ed for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:35:40 -0400 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.186]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jl7zH-0004wc-W5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:35:40 -0400 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 26so1365045fkx.10 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:35:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: raman@users.sf.net Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Raman, On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:48 PM, T. V. Raman wrote: > two suggestions: > > 1) accept paths like "./foo.html" as local links. I will look into this. The problem is the system dependence of file names, so I am not sure what a good solution would be that would work on Windows as well as on Unix. > 2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename > completion relative to the working directory. Hmm, that is difficult, but thanks for the pointer, maybe we can steel some code. For now, if you use `C-u C-c C-l', you get file completion, and the result will be a "file:" link with a relative path (unless you enter a path starting with "/"). Even if you find the file with ../../../some/path, it will still be inserted as a relative link. - Carsten > > > The emacs binding to the w3m browser does this if you type file: in > the minibuffer > when prompted for a URL. > >>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik writes: > Carsten> Hmmmm, this is *such* a good idea, that I will > Carsten> implement this retroactively into all versions since > Carsten> ... 2.0 or so? Abracadabra! Done. > Carsten> > Carsten> In fact, it has been working just so for a very long > Carsten> time. > Carsten> > Carsten> file:foo.html -> href="foo.html" file:foo.org -> > Carsten> href="foo.html" > Carsten> > Carsten> The second line assumes that the org file foo.org > Carsten> will also be converted to an html file in the > Carsten> publishing process.... > Carsten> > Carsten> Also, I was mistaken earlier: > Carsten> > Carsten> http:foo.html becomes href="http:foo.html" and not > Carsten> href="foo.html" > Carsten> > Carsten> so this actually cannot be used for a local link. > Carsten> > Carsten> So what remains from this exchange? Should we > Carsten> accept links that look like absolute file names > Carsten> (including ./foo.html) as equivalent to > Carsten> file:./foo.html ? > Carsten> > Carsten> - Carsten > Carsten> > Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:25 PM, T. V. Raman wrote: > Carsten> >>> >> I think writing http:foo.html is a bad idea because typing that >>> string in other contexts is sort of meaningless as a URL. >>> Until now, everything one types in org-mode sort of has >>> meaning elsewhere. If you want it to look like a url in >>> this case too then I'd suggest file:foo.html -- rther than >>> http:file.html. >>> >>> I did not suggest that earlier because it's more chars to >>> type, but that's not a huge concern since emacs does the >>> typing, and we could always augment c-c c-l to enable >>> authoring of relative links with file completion. >>> >>> so file:a/b/c.html would become href="a/b/c.html" in the >>> generated html. >>> >>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik >>>>>>>> writes: > Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 5:33 PM, T. V. Raman wrote: > Carsten> >>>>> I've not tried http:foo.html -- but I suggest doing that >>>>> to author a relative URL is a bad idea. > Carsten> > Carsten> Can you explain why you think that this is a bad > Carsten> idea? Educate me! What is wrong with writing > Carsten> http:foo.html ?????? > Carsten> > Carsten> - Carsten > Carsten> >>>>> >>> >>> I tried ./foo.html and that didn't work either. One compromise >>>>> would be to get ./foo.html to link to a relative url, >>>>> while foo.html continues to link to a local anchor >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik >>>>>>>>>> writes: > Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 AM, T. V. Raman wrote: > Carsten> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> org-export turns links of the form [[foo][link to >>>>>>> relative url foo]] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ends up creating links of the form >>>>>> href="#foo">... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this means that it becomes impossible to write >>>>>>> hyperlinks that are relative URLs. > Carsten> > Carsten> Hi Raman, > Carsten> > Carsten> the url goes into the first pair of square brackets, > Carsten> the description into the second. If you put > Carsten> something into the first bracket pair that does not > Carsten> look lie a url, it will be treated as an internal > Carsten> link. > Carsten> > Carsten> Have you tried to use something like > Carsten> > Carsten> [[http:foo.html][link to relative url]] > Carsten> > Carsten> ? > Carsten> > Carsten> - Carsten >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best Regards, --raman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: >>>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: >>>>> tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: >>>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: >>>>> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards, --raman >>> >>> >>> Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: >>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: >>> tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: >>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: >>> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs > > -- > Best Regards, > --raman > > > Email: raman@users.sf.net > WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ > AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com > PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc > Google: tv+raman > IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs