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From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: raman@users.sf.net
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: export to html and relative links:
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:35:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B97BB2AC-AA38-4194-968D-85980B7EB728@science.uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Hi Raman,

On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:48 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:

> two suggestions:
>
> 1)  accept paths like "./foo.html" as local links.

I will look into this.  The problem is the system dependence
of file names, so I am not sure what a good solution would be
that would work on Windows as well as on Unix.

> 2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename
> completion relative to the working directory.

Hmm, that is difficult, but thanks for the pointer, maybe we can steel  
some code.

For now, if you use `C-u C-c C-l', you get file completion, and the  
result will
be a "file:" link with a relative path (unless you enter a path  
starting with "/").
Even if you find the file with ../../../some/path, it will still be  
inserted as a relative link.

- Carsten

>
>
> The emacs binding to the w3m browser does this if you type file: in  
> the minibuffer
> when prompted for a URL.
>
>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>    Carsten> Hmmmm, this is *such* a good idea, that I will
>    Carsten> implement this retroactively into all versions since
>    Carsten> ... 2.0 or so?  Abracadabra! Done.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> In fact, it has been working just so for a very long
>    Carsten> time.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> file:foo.html -> href="foo.html" file:foo.org ->
>    Carsten> href="foo.html"
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> The second line assumes that the org file foo.org
>    Carsten> will also be converted to an html file in the
>    Carsten> publishing process....
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Also, I was mistaken earlier:
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> http:foo.html becomes href="http:foo.html" and not
>    Carsten> href="foo.html"
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> so this actually cannot be used for a local link.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> So what remains from this exchange?  Should we
>    Carsten> accept links that look like absolute file names
>    Carsten> (including ./foo.html) as equivalent to
>    Carsten> file:./foo.html ?
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:25 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>>
>> I think writing http:foo.html is a bad idea because typing that
>>> string in other contexts is sort of meaningless as a URL.
>>> Until now, everything one types in org-mode sort of has
>>> meaning elsewhere. If you want it to look like a url in
>>> this case too then I'd suggest file:foo.html -- rther than
>>> http:file.html.
>>>
>>> I did not suggest that earlier because it's more chars to
>>> type, but that's not a huge concern since emacs does the
>>> typing, and we could always augment c-c c-l to enable
>>> authoring of relative links with file completion.
>>>
>>> so file:a/b/c.html would become href="a/b/c.html" in the
>>> generated html.
>>>
>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
>>>>>>>> writes:
>    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 5:33 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>>>> I've not tried http:foo.html -- but I suggest doing that
>>>>> to author a relative URL is a bad idea.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Can you explain why you think that this is a bad
>    Carsten> idea?  Educate me!  What is wrong with writing
>    Carsten> http:foo.html ??????
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
>    Carsten>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I tried ./foo.html and that didn't work either. One compromise
>>>>> would be to get ./foo.html to link to a relative url,
>>>>> while foo.html continues to link to a local anchor
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik
>>>>>>>>>> <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 AM, T. V. Raman wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> org-export turns links of the form [[foo][link to
>>>>>>> relative url foo]]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ends up creating links of the form <a
>>>>>>> href="#foo">...</a>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this means that it becomes impossible to write
>>>>>>> hyperlinks that are relative URLs.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Hi Raman,
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> the url goes into the first pair of square brackets,
>    Carsten> the description into the second.  If you put
>    Carsten> something into the first bracket pair that does not
>    Carsten> look lie a url, it will be treated as an internal
>    Carsten> link.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Have you tried to use something like
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> [[http:foo.html][link to relative url]]
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> ?
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Best Regards, --raman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW:
>>>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk:
>>>>> tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP:
>>>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google:
>>>>> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Best Regards, --raman
>>>
>>>
>>> Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW:
>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk:
>>> tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP:
>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google:
>>> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
>
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> --raman
>
>
> Email:  raman@users.sf.net
> WWW:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/
> AIM:    emacspeak       GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com
> PGP:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
> Google: tv+raman
> IRC:    irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-13 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-13  4:49 export to html and relative links: T. V. Raman
2008-04-13  5:37 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 15:33   ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 15:54     ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 16:25       ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 17:19         ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 18:48           ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 19:35             ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2008-04-13 20:32               ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 21:37                 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-24  6:38             ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-24  8:36               ` Paul R
2008-06-24  9:39                 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-24  9:45                   ` Paul R

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