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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Wiegley <johnw@boostpro.com>
Subject: Re: Bug: org-install must precede customization [7.02trans]
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:40:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B3E71F84-1690-4E29-99A0-041AAEE789CE@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2eiap7vhs.wl%dave@boostpro.com>


On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:28 PM, David Abrahams wrote:

>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> Is it merely the autoload of org-capture-templates, or is this a
> general rule for everything in org-install?  I think I'm perfectly
> happy to work with the dependency in place as long as it's documented.

I think that this should work, but it clearly does not.  So the only
clean thing is it to remove it.  The proper sequence should be
to first load org-install and the do any other configuration.

- Carsten

> For most people it wouldn't be an issue since custom-* puts its
> custom-set-variables call at the end of the file.  I think you need to
> be using something like initsplit to see the problem.
>
> At Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:29:15 -0600,
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> thanks for investigating this.
>>
>> It seems to me that the autoload has caused more problems than it
>> solved - so I have removed the autoload again.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:45 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen  
>>> and
>>> what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?
>>> See
>>>
>>>    http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
>>>
>>> Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> There's an undocumented dependency between org-install and
>>> customizations.  In particular, if custom-set-variables is called to
>>> set
>>> org-capture-templates, and then org-install is loaded,
>>> org-capture-templates will be reset to nil.  I tested this with
>>>
>>> emacs -Q
>>>
>>> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-
>>> appkit-1038.29)
>>> of 2010-05-08 on black.local
>>> Package: Org-mode version 7.02trans
>>>
>>> current state:
>>> ==============
>>> (setq
>>> org-agenda-deadline-leaders '("D: " "D%d: ")
>>> org-clock-in-switch-to-state "STARTED"
>>> org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t
>>> org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial-
>>> vars)
>>> org-todo-keyword-faces '(("TODO" :foreground "medium blue" :weight
>>> bold)
>>>                         ("APPT" :foreground "medium blue" :weight
>>> bold)
>>>                         ("NOTE" :foreground "brown" :weight bold)
>>>                         ("STARTED" :foreground "dark  orange"
>>> :weight bold)
>>>                         ("WAITING" :foreground "red" :weight bold)
>>>                         ("DELEGATED" :foreground "dark  violet"
>>> :weight bold)
>>>                         ("DEFERRED" :foreground "dark blue" :weight
>>> bold)
>>>                         ("SOMEDAY" :foreground "dark blue" :weight
>>> bold)
>>>                         ("PROJECT" :height 1.5 :weight  bold
>>> :foreground "black"))
>>> org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook org-babel-
>>> speed-command-hook)
>>> org-agenda-custom-commands '(("E" "Errands (next 3 days)" tags
>>>                              "Errand&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
>>> \"CANCELLED\"&STYLE<>\"habit\"&SCHEDULED<\"<+3d>\""
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Errands (next 3 days)")
>>>                                                                                                                )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("A" "Priority #A tasks" agenda ""
>>>                              ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
>>>                               (org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Today's priority #A tasks: ")
>>>                               (org-agenda-skip-function
>>>                                (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
>>> (quote notregexp) "\\=.*\\[#A\\]"))
>>>                                )
>>>                               )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("B" "Priority #A and #B tasks" agenda  
>>> ""
>>>                              ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
>>>                               (org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Today's priority #A and #B tasks: ")
>>>                               (org-agenda-skip-function
>>>                                (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
>>> (quote regexp) "\\=.*\\[#C\\]")))
>>>                               )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("w" "Waiting/delegated tasks" tags
>>>                              "TODO=\"WAITING\"|TODO=\"DELEGATED\""
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Waiting/delegated tasks:")
>>>                               (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>                                (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
>>> category-up)))
>>>                               )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("u" "Unscheduled tasks" tags
>>>                              "TODO<>\"\"&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
>>> \"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&CATEGORY<>{CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\| 
>>> Adagio\
>>> \|EVAprint\\|\\<IT\\>}"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Unscheduled tasks: ")
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                             (org
>>> -agenda-skip-function
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                              (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                        (org
>>> -agenda-skip-entry-if
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                               (quote
>>> scheduled)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                               (quote
>>> deadline)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                               (quote
>>> timestamp)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                               (quote
>>> regexp)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                               "\\*
>>> \\(DEFERRED \\|SOMEDAY\\)")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                        )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                              )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                             (org
>>> -agenda-files
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                              (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                ("~
>>> /Dropbox/todo.txt")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                              )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                             (org
>>> -agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                              (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                           (todo
>>> -state-up priority-down category-up)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                           )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                              )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                             )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("U" "Deferred tasks" tags
>>>                              "TODO=\"DEFERRED\"&CATEGORY<>{CEG\\|ABC
>>> \\|Bizcard\\|Adagio\\|EVAprint\\|\\<IT\\>}"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Deferred tasks:")
>>>                                                                                                                  )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("S" "Someday tasks" tags
>>>                              "TODO=\"SOMEDAY\"&CATEGORY<>{CEG\\|ABC\
>>> \|Bizcard\\|Adagio\\|EVAprint\\|\\<IT\\>}"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Someday tasks:")
>>>                                                                                                                 )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("G" "Ledger tasks (all)" tags-todo
>>> "TODO<>{SOMEDAY}"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-files (quote ("~/src/
>>> ledger/plan/TODO")))
>>>                               (org-agenda-overriding-header "Ledger
>>> tasks:")
>>>                               (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>                                (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
>>> category-up)))
>>>                               )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("l" "Ledger tasks" tags-todo
>>> "TODO<>{SOMEDAY\\|DEFERRED}"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-files (quote ("~/src/
>>> ledger/plan/TODO")))
>>>                               (org-agenda-overriding-header "Ledger
>>> tasks:")
>>>                               (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>                                (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
>>> category-up)))
>>>                               (org-agenda-skip-function
>>>                                (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
>>> (quote regexp) "\\=.*\\[#C\\]")))
>>>                               )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("L" "Ledger tasks not in Bugzilla"
>>> alltodo ""
>>>                              ((org-agenda-files (quote ("~/src/
>>> ledger/plan/TODO")))
>>>                               (org-agenda-overriding-header "Ledger
>>> tasks:")
>>>                               (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>                                (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
>>> category-up)))
>>>                               (org-agenda-skip-function
>>>                                (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
>>> (quote regexp) "\\(bug:\\)")))
>>>                               )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("r" "Uncategorized items" tags
>>> "CATEGORY=\"Inbox\"&LEVEL=2"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Uncategorized items")))
>>>                             ("W" "Unscheduled work tasks" tags
>>>                              "CATEGORY={CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio
>>> \\|IT\\|EVAprint}&CATEGORY<>\"Website\"&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
>>> \"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&TODO<>\"\"&LEVEL>1"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header
>>> "Unscheduled work tasks")
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                    (org
>>> -agenda-skip-function
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                     (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                               (org
>>> -agenda-skip-entry-if
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (quote
>>> scheduled)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (quote
>>> deadline)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                      )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                               )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                     )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                    (org
>>> -agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                     (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                  (todo
>>> -state-up priority-down)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                  )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                     )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                    )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("z" "CEG tasks not in Bugzilla" tags
>>>                              "CATEGORY={CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio
>>> \\|IT\\|EVAprint}&CATEGORY<>{Website\\|Admin}&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
>>> \"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&TODO<>\"\"&LEVEL>1&SCOPE<>\"local\""
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header "CEG
>>> tasks not in Bugzilla")
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                           (org
>>> -agenda-skip-function
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                            (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (org
>>> -agenda-skip-entry-if
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             (quote
>>> regexp)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             "\\(cegbug
>>> :\\)")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                            )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                           )
>>>                              )
>>>                             ("Z" "CEG tasks in Bugzilla" tags
>>>                              "CATEGORY={CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio
>>> \\|IT\\|EVAprint}&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>\"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>
>>> \"DELEGATED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&LEVEL>1"
>>>                              ((org-agenda-overriding-header "CEG
>>> tasks in Bugzilla")
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                       (org
>>> -agenda-skip-function
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                        (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                  (org
>>> -agenda-skip-entry-if
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                         (quote
>>> notregexp)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                         "cegbug
>>> :")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                  )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                        )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                       (org
>>> -agenda-sorting-strategy
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                        (quote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                     (todo
>>> -state-up category-down priority-down user-defined-up)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                     )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                        )
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                                                       )
>>>                              )
>>>                             )
>>> org-agenda-files '("~/Dropbox/todo.txt" "~/Dropbox/Projects")
>>> org-agenda-include-diary t
>>> org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-children-or-siblings-or- 
>>> parent)
>>> org-agenda-menu-two-column t
>>> org-agenda-tags-column -100
>>> org-hide-leading-stars t
>>> org-clock-into-drawer "LOGBOOK"
>>> org-completion-use-ido t
>>> org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
>>> org-footnote-section nil
>>> org-agenda-scheduled-leaders '("" "S%d: ")
>>> org-archive-save-context-info '(time category itags)
>>> org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
>>> org-agenda-text-search-extra-files '(agenda-archives)
>>> org-archive-location "TODO-archive::"
>>> org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files t
>>> org-agenda-default-appointment-duration 60
>>> org-time-clocksum-use-fractional t
>>> org-agenda-sorting-strategy '((agenda habit-down time-up todo-state-
>>> up priority-down category-keep)
>>>                              (todo priority-down category-keep)
>>> (tags priority-down category-keep)
>>>                              (search category-keep))
>>> org-export-blocks-postblock-hook '(org-exp-res/src-name-cleanup)
>>> org-agenda-prefix-format '((agenda . "  %-11:c%?-12t% s")  (timeline
>>> . "  % s") (todo . "  %-11:c")
>>>                           (tags . "  %-11:c"))
>>> org-habit-preceding-days 42
>>> org-export-latex-format-toc-function 'org-export-latex-format-toc-
>>> default
>>> org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
>>> org-stuck-projects '("+LEVEL=1/-DONE" ("TODO" "STARTED" "NEXT"
>>> "NEXTACTION") nil
>>>                     "\\(Appointments\\|Notes\\|Anniversaries\\)")
>>> org-clock-in-resume t
>>> org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-eval-replace-snippts)
>>> org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe org-src-native-tab-
>>> command-maybe
>>>                     org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe)
>>> org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
>>> org-src-mode-
>>> configure-edit-buffer)
>>> org-mac-mail-account "GMail: BoostPro"
>>> org-cycle-global-at-bob t
>>> org-confirm-shell-link-function nil
>>> org-reveal-start-hook '(org-decrypt-entry)
>>> org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
>>> org-use-tag-inheritance nil
>>> org-clock-persist 'history
>>> org-todo-keywords '((sequence "TODO" "APPT" "|" "DONE" "NOTE"))
>>> org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
>>> org-M-RET-may-split-line '((headline) (default . t))
>>> org-default-notes-file "~/Dropbox/todo.txt"
>>> org-directory "~/Dropbox/Projects"
>>> org-tag-alist '((#("LUANN" 0 5 (face nil)) . 110) (#("WORK" 0 4
>>> (face nil)) . 119))
>>> org-agenda-persistent-filter t
>>> org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
>>> org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-
>>> drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
>>>                 org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
>>> org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook '(org-remove-
>>> file-link-modifiers)
>>> org-use-speed-commands t
>>> org-mode-hook '((lambda nil (local-set-key [(control 44)] (quote
>>> backward-word)))
>>>                #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
>>>                  [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-
>>> block-all append local] 5]
>>>                #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
>>>                  [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel-
>>> show-result-all append local] 5]
>>>                org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
>>> org-agenda-menu-show-matcher nil
>>> org-clock-out-remove-zero-time-clocks t
>>> org-font-lock-hook '(org-eval-handle-snippets)
>>> org-agenda-ndays 1
>>> org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :level . 1) (org-agenda-
>>> files :todo . "PROJECT"))
>>> org-extend-today-until 2
>>> org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point org-babel-execute-
>>> safely-maybe)
>>> org-confirm-elisp-link-function nil
>>> org-fast-tag-selection-single-key 'expert
>>> org-todo-repeat-to-state "TODO"
>>> org-clock-modeline-total 'current
>>> org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
>>> org-agenda-fontify-priorities t
>>> org-export-interblocks '((lob org-babel-exp-lob-one-liners) (src
>>> org-
>>> babel-exp-inline-src-blocks))
>>> org-enforce-todo-dependencies t
>>> org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t
>>> org-reverse-note-order t
>>> org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
>>> org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook '(org-
>>> beamer-select-beamer-code)
>>> org-agenda-cmp-user-defined 'org-cmp-ceg-bugs
>>> org-export-preprocess-after-include-files-hook '(org-export-blocks-
>>> preprocess)
>>> org-tags-column -97
>>> org-modules '(org-crypt org-id org-habit org-mac-message org-
>>> bookmark org-eval)
>>> org-agenda-auto-exclude-function 'org-my-auto-exclude-function
>>> org-ellipsis 'org-habit-alert-face
>>> org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header
>>> org-beamer-fix-
>>> toc
>>>                              org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
>>>                              org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-
>>> lists)
>>> org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
>>> org-clock-idle-time 10
>>> org-attach-method 'mv
>>> org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-blocks nil) (comment org-
>>> export-blocks-format-comment t)
>>>                    (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil)
>>>                    (dot org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
>>> )
>>> -- 
>>> Dave Abrahams
>>> BoostPro Computing
>>> http://www.boostpro.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
>
> -- 
> Dave Abrahams
> BoostPro Computing
> http://www.boostpro.com
>

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-13  4:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-12 18:45 Bug: org-install must precede customization [7.02trans] David Abrahams
2010-11-12 22:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-13  3:28   ` David Abrahams
2010-11-13  4:40     ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-11-13  5:01       ` David Abrahams
2010-11-13  5:50         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-14 13:28           ` David Abrahams
2010-11-13  5:55     ` Anupam Sengupta
2010-11-13  6:00       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-14 13:29       ` David Abrahams

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