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From: Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>
To: Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 19:33:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTin_U_Ynp7TYdePoP66rPRrgAM5ZCgnovs2oepCS@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20100530T181754-367@post.gmane.org>


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With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about
this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces the
number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just trying
to quickly jot something down.   I do, however, need to fix it so that the
Save button is always visible.    The thing about this particular Activity
display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the
display... so that the save button would never be off the page but rather
the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it.   I may consider
adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Capture
screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most intuitive if
the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss it, some
things about Android happen in the background so that if you navigate away
from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that's not how this
capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to automatically
save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the workflow and
makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplish the save
action.     These are just my thoughts.   As I bake out the Capture system I
will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it under the
'Menu' action.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info>wrote:

> julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes:
>
> >
> > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a écrit :
> > > Hi to all, hi Matthew
> > >
> > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC
> > > Magic,
> > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by the
> on-screen keyboard.
> > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible
> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed.
>
> If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android applications,
> IMO,
> is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed in
> page,
> or invoked by the menu button.
>
> I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button.  If
> you
> stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find the
> controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be
> rendered
> either hard to reach or completely inaccessible.  This problem is made
> worse
> (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full
> knowledge
> of the screen dimensions.
>
> So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, etc.)
> that
> you make it reachable by the center menu button.
>
> HtH,
> cheers,
> r
>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-30 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-28  9:05 MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Sven Bretfeld
2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine
2010-05-28 18:29   ` julien cubizolles
2010-05-28 18:43   ` Matthew Jones
2010-05-28 18:27 ` julien cubizolles
2010-05-30 16:21   ` Robert Goldman
2010-05-30 23:33     ` Matthew Jones [this message]
2010-07-11  5:56       ` Dave Kritzberg
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTimqX9-C14gYXeTMtD4TqZ8W9aVXf8Sibexam4a2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-14 22:15           ` Dave Kritzberg
2010-05-28 18:40 ` Matthew Jones
2010-06-07  7:02   ` Detlef Steuer
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTikYVkk-tExzTXoaFdmbKf8LrLZuqgtZo6chgvDC@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-07 14:43       ` Matthew Jones
2010-06-07 15:30         ` Henri-Paul Indiogine
2010-05-31  5:46 ` Enrico Indiogine
2010-05-31  7:05   ` Sven Bretfeld
2010-06-02 17:22     ` Daniel Martins
2010-06-02 19:35       ` Daniel Martins

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