From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Gez" Subject: Request - capture included in customize browser Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:32:39 +0100 Message-ID: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0080850699==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42804 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PAnfj-0003Qs-QG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:50:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PAnOG-0003jl-0j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:32:53 -0400 Received: from copperhead.c1.site5.com ([174.120.98.140]:38335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PAnOF-0003jQ-IT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:32:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by copperhead.c1.site5.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F7A14FD2 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:32:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from copperhead.c1.site5.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (copperhead.c1.site5.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51iIlxh2y0OM for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:32:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alice (82-69-51-46.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.51.46]) by copperhead.c1.site5.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4A7EF14FA8 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:32:49 -0500 (CDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0080850699== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02CD_01CB753C.2B494220" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01CB753C.2B494220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had my main system in org mode for a couple of weeks now and I'm = getting on really well - it's an amazing tool. I'm very grateful for = it. And for the support here too. I want to set up org-capture but cannot find it using M-x = customize-apropos. I'm guessing that the customize browser is a kind of = interface that has to be written and hasn't yet been written for = org-capture. I'll get on with making my settings by hand, as it were, = in the meantime, but this is a request please, for a customize interface = for org-capture. =20 I've been doing all my configuring with the customize browser recently = (after some early false starts copying, pasting and editing settings = directly into my .emacs file). I'm avoiding errors and I also find it = better documented than the manual and really useful to see the context = (the customize group). =20 Gez (Windows XP, GNU Emacs 23.2.1, Org-mode version 7.01trans)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01CB753C.2B494220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've had my main system in org mode for = a couple of=20 weeks now and I'm getting on really well - it's an amazing = tool. I'm=20 very grateful for it. And for the support here too.

I want to set up org-capture = but cannot=20 find it using M-x customize-apropos. I'm guessing that = the=20 customize browser is a kind of interface that has to be written and = hasn't=20 yet been written for org-capture. I'll get on with making my = settings=20 by hand, as it were, in the meantime, but this is a request=20 please, for a customize interface for org-capture. =

I've been doing all my configuring = with the=20 customize browser recently (after some early false starts = copying,=20 pasting and editing settings directly into my .emacs file). I'm = avoiding=20 errors and I also find it better documented than = the manual and=20 really useful to see the context (the customize group). =

Gez

(Windows XP,=20 GNU Emacs 23.2.1, Org-mode version 7.01trans)=20

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Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0080850699==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Request - capture included in customize browser Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: <87zku0ph3s.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33810 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PAunm-00046L-Ay for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:27:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PAufz-0007P2-CN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:19:40 -0400 Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.71]:62778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PAufz-0007Ox-5Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:19:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice> (Gez's message of "Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:32:39 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Gez Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org "Gez" writes: > I've had my main system in org mode for a couple of weeks now and I'm getting on really well - it's an amazing > tool. I'm very grateful for it. And for the support here too. > > I want to set up org-capture but cannot find it using M-x customize-apropos. I'm guessing that the customize > browser is a kind of interface that has to be written and hasn't yet been written for org-capture. I'll get on > with making my settings by hand, as it were, in the meantime, but this is a request please, for a customize > interface for org-capture. > > I've been doing all my configuring with the customize browser recently (after some early false starts copying, > pasting and editing settings directly into my .emacs file). I'm avoiding errors and I also find it better > documented than the manual and really useful to see the context (the customize group). C-h v org-capture-templates and click on the _customize_ link. HTH, Bernt From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Gez" Subject: Bug? Capture not in customize until called by key (was Request - capture included in customize browser) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:58:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice> <87zku0ph3s.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35770 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PB3RS-0002WC-Te for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:41:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB2vL-0003XH-8d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:08:08 -0400 Received: from bullhorn.c1.site5.com ([174.120.98.136]:34145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB2vL-0003X0-4F for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:08:03 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org I wrote another post but it didn't thread properly - sorry. Anyway, I've tested further and it seems that the customize capture appears and disappears. Here's how to replicate, I hope. With .emacs having no reference to capture (no key defined, no templates), customize capture is inaccessible (not found via M-x customize-apropos nor listed in the customize browser) With .emacs having capture key defined, on each restart of emacs, customize capture is likewise inaccessible, until the key combination is called (in my case, C-c c), upon which capture appears both in the customize browser and via M-x-customize-apropos - until the next restart. So you can't use customize for capture until you've both defined a key for it in .emacs and also called that key combination in the current session. I hope that's all clear enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernt Hansen" > > C-h v org-capture-templates > and click on the _customize_ link. Thank you, Bernt, but I can't see a _customize_ link there, either when capture is in customize or when it's not. Gez (Windows XP, GNU Emacs 23.2.1, Org-mode version 7.01trans) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Bug? Capture not in customize until called by key Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:39:48 -0400 Message-ID: <87vd4nq06j.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice> <87zku0ph3s.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57426 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PB5Ij-00027X-1s for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:40:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB5IH-0008Fy-3h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:40:20 -0400 Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.72]:63127) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB5IG-0008Ff-VF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:39:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Gez's message of "Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:58:20 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Gez Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org "Gez" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernt Hansen" >> >> C-h v org-capture-templates >> and click on the _customize_ link. > > > Thank you, Bernt, but I can't see a _customize_ link there, either > when capture is in customize or when it's not. > > Gez > (Windows XP, GNU Emacs 23.2.1, Org-mode version 7.01trans) > I wrote another post but it didn't thread properly - sorry. Anyway, > I've tested further and it seems that the customize capture appears > and disappears. > > Here's how to replicate, I hope. > > With .emacs having no reference to capture (no key defined, no > templates), customize capture is inaccessible (not found via M-x > customize-apropos nor listed in the customize browser) > > With .emacs having capture key defined, on each restart of emacs, > customize capture is likewise inaccessible, until the key combination > is called (in my case, C-c c), upon which capture appears both in the > customize browser and via M-x-customize-apropos - until the next > restart. > > So you can't use customize for capture until you've both defined a key > for it in .emacs and also called that key combination in the current > session. I hope that's all clear enough. > Hi Gez, I think the capture definitions are autoloaded the first time you capture something. If you add (require 'org-capture) in your .emacs then I think they will always be available. Regards, Bernt From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Gez" Subject: Re: Re: Bug? Capture not in customize until called by key Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:35:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice><87zku0ph3s.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87vd4nq06j.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43494 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PB6AH-0006se-E1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:35:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB6A0-0004Zh-Mt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:35:41 -0400 Received: from bullhorn.c1.site5.com ([174.120.98.136]:46438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB6A0-0004Yw-Jp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:35:24 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernt Hansen" > "Gez" writes: > > >> ... it seems that the customize capture appears >> and disappears. >> >> Here's how to replicate, I hope. >> >> With .emacs having no reference to capture (no key defined, no >> templates), customize capture is inaccessible (not found via M-x >> customize-apropos nor listed in the customize browser) >> >> With .emacs having capture key defined, on each restart of emacs, >> customize capture is likewise inaccessible, until the key combination >> is called (in my case, C-c c), upon which capture appears both in the >> customize browser and via M-x-customize-apropos - until the next >> restart. >> >> So you can't use customize for capture until you've both defined a key >> for it in .emacs and also called that key combination in the current >> session. I hope that's all clear enough. >> > > Hi Gez, > > I think the capture definitions are autoloaded the first time you > capture something. If you add > > (require 'org-capture) > > in your .emacs then I think they will always be available. Thank you, Bernt - that did it. Much appreciated. Just in case it's relevant, "Org Capture" appears just after "Org Completion" in the list in the customize browser window now, whereas before it was listed at the end, after "Org Protocol". I suppose that's because of the order of loading. Gez From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Noorul Islam Subject: Re: Bug? Capture not in customize until called by key (was Request - capture included in customize browser) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:40:54 +0530 Message-ID: References: <5E610425667B433482DBD6350B3A13D8@alice> <87zku0ph3s.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44069 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PB6iQ-0001X4-PP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:10:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB6iN-0005io-Vs for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:10:58 -0400 Received: from mail-gw0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:45280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PB6iN-0005iZ-RL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:10:55 -0400 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11so476363gwb.0 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:10:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Gez Cc: Bernt Hansen , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Gez wrote: > I wrote another post but it didn't thread properly - sorry. =A0Anyway, I'= ve > tested further and it seems that the customize capture appears and > disappears. > > Here's how to replicate, I hope. > > With .emacs having no reference to capture (no key defined, no templates)= , > customize capture is inaccessible (not found via M-x customize-apropos no= r > listed in the customize browser) > > With .emacs having capture key defined, on each restart of emacs, customi= ze > capture is likewise inaccessible, until the key combination is called (in= my > case, C-c c), upon which capture appears both in the customize browser an= d > via M-x-customize-apropos - until the next restart. > > So you can't use customize for capture until you've both defined a key fo= r > it in .emacs and also called that key combination in the current session.= =A0I > hope that's all clear enough. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernt Hansen" >> >> C-h v org-capture-templates >> and click on the _customize_ link. > > > Thank you, Bernt, but I can't see a _customize_ link there, either when > capture is in customize or when it's not. > Did you try putting the following inside .emacs? (require 'org-capture) The following worked for me. emacs -Q --eval "(add-to-list 'load-path \"/path/to/org-mode/lisp\")" --eval "(require 'org-capture)" M-x customize-apropos org-capture Thanks and Regards Noorul