From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Livin Stephen Sharma Subject: Re: Poll: Who is using these commands Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 07:46:02 +0530 Message-ID: References: <20100508202159.GA32505@taupan.ath.cx> <4BE5DF9C.909@gmail.com> <25323279-0FB6-4564-8198-FEC8DDCA4B78@gmail.com> <4BE9EC0B.4080604@gmail.com> <87632thq8i.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0583575627==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43834 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OC1Up-0007Mi-0C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 22:16:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OC1Un-0005VH-8x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 22:16:26 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f198.google.com ([209.85.222.198]:48032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OC1Um-0005V2-V3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 22:16:25 -0400 Received: by pzk36 with SMTP id 36so3571308pzk.24 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 19:16:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87632thq8i.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Schulte Cc: Scott Randby , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Carsten Dominik --===============0583575627== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0a8f26be0ca04865c3a79 --001636e0a8f26be0ca04865c3a79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12 May 2010 06:48, Eric Schulte wrote: > Scott Randby writes: > > [...] > > > > I don't understand why C-M-a should be bound to take one back to the > > beginning of a heading when C-a already does this. With the proposed > > changes, one might press C-M-a and then C-M-p which is a total of 4 > > keys, when the current set-up is to press C-c C-p which is only 3 > > keys. I'm not in favor of increasing the number of keys one needs to > > press to perform a basic motion. > > > > > I haven't been following this thread so take this with a grain of salt, b= ut > I count key-chords as single keys =96 since they can all be pressed in a > single motion, > I agree that chording makes for single commands. Scott, Also, the C-M-a to go back to beginning of heading works when one is somewhere 'under' the heading: in the 'content'/text in that section... so I think it is different from C-a (did I understand you right?). :) Scott, you had said > I'm not in favor of increasing the number of keys one needs to press to > perform a basic motion. I too hope there is a 'good' resolution to this. FWIW, I have already followed the example of other responders and bound C-M-... to work like the C-c C-... equivalents -- I find this change to be an improvement over C-c C-... : the trivial loss being that C-M-.. no longer works for parentheses-based movement in org buffers. > which would mean > C-M-a1 key press C-c C-a2 key presses > > but maybe my hands are just too accustomed to typing in Emacs and it's > skewing my perception. > > Best =96 Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > --001636e0a8f26be0ca04865c3a79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 12 May 2010 06:48, Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gma= il.com> wrote:
Scott Randby <srandby@gmail.com= > writes:

[...]
>
> I don't understand why C-M-a should be bound to take one back to t= he
> beginning of a heading when C-a already does this. With the proposed > changes, one might press C-M-a and then C-M-p which is a total of 4 > keys, when the current set-up is to press C-c C-p which is only 3
> keys. =A0I'm not in favor of increasing the number of keys one nee= ds to
> press to perform a basic motion.
>


I haven't been following this thread so take this wi= th a grain of salt, but I count key-chords as single keys =96 since they can all be pressed in a single motion,

I agree that chording makes for si= ngle commands.


Scott,
Als= o,
the C-M-a to go back to beginning of heading works when one is= somewhere 'under' the heading: in the 'content'/text in th= at section... so I think it is different from C-a (did I understand you rig= ht?).
:)

Scott, you had said
I'm not in favor of increasing the number of keys one needs to press to= perform a basic motion.
=A0
I too hope there is= a 'good' resolution to this.

FWIW, I have= already followed the example of other responders and bound C-M-... to work= like the C-c C-... equivalents -- I find this change to be an improvement = over C-c C-... :
=A0the trivial loss being that C-M-.. no longer works for parentheses-= based movement in org buffers.

=A0

which would mean

C-M-a1 key press
C-c C-a2 key presses

but maybe my hands are just too accustomed to typing in Emacs and it's skewing my perception.

Best =96 Eric


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