From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Aankhen Subject: Re: Re: Continuation of main section text after subsections ? Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:54:12 +0530 Message-ID: References: <20110327170251.58923564@hsdev.com> <81tyeotvzo.fsf@gmail.com> <20110327181155.054fecf2@hsdev.com> <87vcz4ebu9.fsf@lw-wireless-pittnet-40-144.wireless.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35493 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3ude-0007Jx-CA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:24:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3udd-0003Dn-07 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:24:34 -0400 Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:40682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3udc-0003Dj-Tz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:24:32 -0400 Received: by vxk20 with SMTP id 20so1755200vxk.0 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:24:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87vcz4ebu9.fsf@lw-wireless-pittnet-40-144.wireless.pitt.edu> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: William Gardella , Org-mode ml Hullo, On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 22:32, William Gardella wrot= e: > Marcel van der Boom writes: > >> On zo 27-mrt-2011 16:52 >> Cian wrote: >> >>> You can't do that, as it would be akin to trying to have in a book >>> >>> Section 1 >>> Stuff >>> Section 1.1.1 >>> More stuff >>> >>> Now this goes under Section 1 >>> >>> Not really an idiom that makes sense (I find its best to think of >>> org-mode's headings as chapter headers >> >> Agreed, for paper books that would not make much sense (depending on >> how you do it) and that fact kept me from asking the question for a >> while. >> For electronic texts however, especially in the drafting stage where >> (sub-)sections get shuffled around, promoted, demoted, split etc. it >> does make sense, to me at least. >> >> When writing I tend to think about org headings as 'handles' to a >> logical block of information, including its child blocks. Apparently my >> analogy clashes with what org-mode wants. I had my hopes on a >> customization option. >> >> Is there a strong reason this could not work as an option in org-mode? >> >> marcel > > Marcel, > > I think this is not yet easily possible in org-mode due to the > limitations of org's rather simple concept of markup. =C2=A0Because org t= ries > to stay out of the way of the user's choice of indentation flow, for > example, whitespace can't be used to indicate that your text has > returned to the top level after entering a subheading. =C2=A0And unlike i= n, > e.g., HTML or LaTeX, there's no way of "closing" the subheading > environment explicitly. > > As Cian suggests, some alternatives you can use are to employ drawers or > environments such as #+BEGIN_NOTE. > > I also use Org as a drafting tool, mostly for documents that will end up > as papers or legal documents rendered with LaTeX. =C2=A0There are a few > ambiguities in the markup that are hard to resolve without going the > additional step of exporting to HTML or LaTeX and editing that output. > You've just stumbled into one of them... Out of curiosity, how would you return to an enclosing context in LaTeX or DocBook? In HTML, of course, you can nest =E2=80=98div=E2=80=99 e= lements (or proper =E2=80=98section=E2=80=99 elements in HTML5) and alternate subsectio= ns and text to your heart=E2=80=99s content. As far as I know, there is no equivalent = in the other two formats: you need to use other containers within the section, such as lists or tables. Aankhen