From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andrew Burrow Subject: Re: Poll: Who is using these commands Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 18:00:43 +1000 Message-ID: References: <20100508202159.GA32505@taupan.ath.cx> <4BE5DF9C.909@gmail.com> <25323279-0FB6-4564-8198-FEC8DDCA4B78@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0026382767==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35188 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OBkY0-0002RZ-7a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 04:10:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OBkOT-0000tu-84 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 04:00:46 -0400 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:64217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OBkOT-0000ti-2s for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 04:00:45 -0400 Received: by pwi10 with SMTP id 10so2270367pwi.0 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 01:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <25323279-0FB6-4564-8198-FEC8DDCA4B78@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0026382767== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b98d15db8804864cece3 --001636e0b98d15db8804864cece3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On May 9, 2010, at 12:03 AM, Scott Randby wrote: > > On 05/08/2010 04:22 PM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> Carsten Dominik schrieb: >>> >>>> I am wondering: >>>> >>>> How many of your are using these keys >>>> >>>> C-c C-f >>>> C-c C-b >>>> C-c C-n >>>> C-c C-p >>>> >>> >>> Never. I always use the speed commands since they became available. >>> >> >> The problem I have with speed commands is that, according to the manual, >> they only work "when the cursor is at the beginning of a headline." I need >> commands that work when the cursor is anywhere on the headline. >> > > How about if C-M-a went back to the beginning of the heading and then you > use speed commands? Would that be an alternative, or is that one command to > much? > > - Carsten This makes a great deal of sense to me. I am frequently frustrated when locating the start or end of a tree: how to reliably place point so that M- creates a new tree of the desired level? I suggest the following postconditions: C-M-a guarantees that speed keys are applicable, and C-M-e guarantees that M- is applicable. Andrew --001636e0b98d15db8804864cece3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Carsten Dominik= <carsten= .dominik@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 9, 2010, at 12:03 AM, Scott Randby wrote:

On 05/08/2010 04:22 PM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote:
Hi!
Carsten Dominik schrieb:
I am wondering:

How many of your are using these keys

C-c C-f
C-c C-b
C-c C-n
C-c C-p

Never. I always use the speed commands since they became available.

The problem I have with speed commands is that, according to the manual, th= ey only work "when the cursor is at the beginning of a headline."= I need commands that work when the cursor is anywhere on the headline.

How about if C-M-a went back to the beginning of the heading and then you u= se speed commands? =C2=A0Would that be an alternative, or is that one comma= nd to much?

- Carsten

This makes a great deal of sense to me.
=
I am frequently frustrated when locating the start or end of a tree: ho= w to reliably place point so that M-<Enter> creates a new tree of the= desired level?=C2=A0 I suggest the following postconditions: C-M-a guarant= ees that speed keys are applicable, and C-M-e guarantees that M-<Enter&g= t; is applicable.

Andrew
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