From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: brian powell Subject: Re: Re: Can I input multiline in a cell? Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:09:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877hd0tht6.fsf@altern.org> <87sjvnlt0w.fsf@gnu.org> <87ipwheksh.fsf@altern.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0335063420==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=32822 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PqRxH-0006gB-Cv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:09:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqRxG-0000a4-8j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:09:11 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:42635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqRxF-0000Zq-T5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:09:10 -0500 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so3912924wwb.30 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:09:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ipwheksh.fsf@altern.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: Wang Coeus , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0335063420== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636832f2c4b9790049c8fe5e4 --001636832f2c4b9790049c8fe5e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the "plain text" KISS methods. I've changed my fonts (all fonts--fixed and otherwise) to a font using the string " Mono " somewhere in its name, and things seem better reading and copying-and-pasting into an email buffer like this one--it should take care of all problems with reading and writing @aligned tables@. Thanks for pointing that out Bastien (about the fonts)--the "FreeMono" and "Courier" fonts in GOOGLE CHROME are ugly--I tried them all after your email--I settled on "DejaVu Sans Mono Book"; but, again, I have never posted HTML to this list that I remember--I used to work with IETF members on XML protocols and I'm very familiar with GML, SGML, HTML, XML, etc--I know HTML when I see it. The only "markup" that I inserted was "[[file:" --but thats not HTML--its OrgMode? If I paste text and set its font to XYZ @and@ you allow your browser to view the XYZ font and character set @and@ you have the XYZ font software installed and/or your email software has it, then you'll see it the way the writer intended you to see it. If you ever see anything from me with "uncovered down"/aligned table columns again, please tell me, sorry about that, it shouldn't happen again. I strongly believe that problem has been solved. (I'll look into "turning off" HTML sending in my GOOGLE CHROME browser options--like you suggested Bastien) As for OrgMode and my idea, my plan: I will be setting "^H" as an end-of-line "$" marker in my own code--when I am in a buffer running OrgMode--and I'll see if I can make "multivariate stat." tables like the example table Wang gave--EMACS has the only regexp engine that is easily tweaked that way--that I know of (see "Regular Expressions", O'Reilly, 1st edition) Now, should OrgMode "table mode" support the creation of tables like the one Wang gave as an example? I think it should. --But I'm so giddy about OrgMode as it is right now, I almost don't care! ;-) On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Bastien wrote: > brian powell writes: > > > Forget all previous emails from me on this thread; > > Done :) > > The font you use might causes problems for fixed-font emails you *read* > but problems for emails you send are caused by using HTML. Go to gmail > parameters and deactivate HTML when sending, it's generally better, at > least for this list... > > Thanks! > > -- > Bastien > --001636832f2c4b9790049c8fe5e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the "plain= text" KISS methods.

I've changed my fonts (all= fonts--fixed and otherwise) to a font using the string " Mono " = somewhere in its name, and things seem better reading and copying-and-pasti= ng into an email buffer like this one--it should take care of all problems = with reading and writing @aligned tables@.

Thanks for pointing that out Bastien (about the fonts)-= -the "FreeMono" and "Courier" fonts in GOOGLE CHROME ar= e ugly--I tried them all after your email--I settled on "DejaVu Sans M= ono Book"; but, again, I have never posted HTML to this list that I re= member--I used to work with IETF members on XML protocols and I'm very = familiar with GML, SGML, HTML, XML, etc--I know HTML when I see it. =A0The = only "markup" that I inserted was "[[file:" --but thats= not HTML--its OrgMode?

If I paste text and set its font to XYZ @and@ you allow= your browser to view the XYZ font and character set @and@ you have the XYZ= font software installed and/or your email software has it, then you'll= see it the way the writer intended you to see it. =A0If you ever see anyth= ing from me with "uncovered down"/aligned table columns again, pl= ease tell me, sorry about that, it shouldn't happen again. =A0I strongl= y believe that problem has been solved.=A0

(I'll look into "turning off" HTML sendin= g in my GOOGLE CHROME browser options--like you suggested Bastien)

As for OrgMode and my idea, my plan: I will be setting &qu= ot;^H" as an end-of-line "$" marker in my own code--when I a= m in a buffer running OrgMode--and I'll see if I can make "multiva= riate stat." tables like the example table Wang gave--EMACS has the on= ly regexp engine that is easily tweaked that way--that I know of (see "= ;Regular Expressions", O'Reilly, 1st edition)

Now, should OrgMode "table mode" support the = creation of tables like the one Wang gave as an example? I think it should.=

--But I'm so giddy about OrgMode as it is rig= ht now, I almost don't care!=A0

;-)


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr>= wrote:
brian powell <briangpowellms@gmail.com> write= s:

> Forget all previous emails from me on this thr= ead;

Done :)

The font you use might causes problems for fixed-font emails you *read*
but problems for emails you send are caused by using HTML. =A0Go to gmail parameters and deactivate HTML when sending, it's generally better, at<= br> least for this list...

Thanks!

--
=A0Bastien

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