From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alan E. Davis" Subject: Cryptic error message(s) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:31:01 +1000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1687902719==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40610 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PTErt-0006yz-9L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:32:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PTErb-0003Lr-GD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:31:24 -0500 Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:57324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PTErb-0003Lj-9f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:31:23 -0500 Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so2657137wyj.0 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:31:21 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: org-mode --===============1687902719== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6568f905ff320049787e8d3 --0016e6568f905ff320049787e8d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have stumbled over error messages in org mode a few times. The following message, or permutations thereof, comes up frequently, but each time I am confused about what it means (albeit I have solved it again today): "The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use to yank anyway". In each case this message was received because of a nit, in creating a capture template. Each time, I am consternated for a while, before I realize this. And each time, I am still consternated until I figure out what the error is. What does this mean, "use to yank anyway." ? I haven't been able to do anything of the kind. I think. What does it mean, "the kill is not a (set of) tree(s)" ? I have sometimes noticed that the problem is a missing asterisk at the start of a line in the template string. Not sure, though, whether that is what is meant. May I humbly request that these error messages be rewritten to reflect the nature of the error in a manner that is understandable by a user? If I understood them well, I would be willing to suggest other text. On the other hand, I must say that I don't know how all the non-ENglish speaking programmers do it. Amazing. This is not the only error message I have tripped over. Perhaps one could develop a list of error messages, with explanations for each... How could I grep for error messages in the lisp source, to at least get a list of messages? Is this something useful to do? Thank you very much, Alan Davis "Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value." --- R. Buckminster Fuller --0016e6568f905ff320049787e8d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have stumbled over error messages in org mode a few times.=A0 The followi= ng message, or permutations thereof, comes up frequently, but each time I a= m confused about what it means (albeit I have solved it again today):
=A0 "The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use <S-insertchar&= gt; to yank anyway".=A0

In each case this message was received= because of a nit, in creating a capture template.=A0 Each time, I am const= ernated for a while, before I realize this.=A0 And each time, I am still co= nsternated until I figure out what the error is.=A0

What does this mean, "use <S-insertchar> to yank anyway.&quo= t; ?=A0=A0 I haven't been able to do anything of the kind.=A0 I think.= =A0

What does it mean, "the kill is not a (set of) tree(s)&quo= t; ?=A0=A0

I have sometimes noticed that the problem is a missing asterisk at the = start of a line in the template string.=A0 Not sure, though, whether that i= s what is meant.

May I humbly request that these error messages be r= ewritten to reflect the nature of the error in a manner that is understanda= ble by a user?=A0 If I understood them well, I would be willing to suggest = other text.=A0 On the other hand, I must say that I don't know how all = the non-ENglish speaking programmers do it.=A0 Amazing.


This is not the only error message I have tripped over.=A0 Perhaps = one could develop a list of error messages, with explanations for each...= =A0 How could I grep for error messages in the lisp source, to at least get= a list of messages?=A0 Is this something useful to do?=A0=A0

Thank you very much,

Alan Davis

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"Pollution is nothing but the resources we=20 are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been=20 ignorant of their value."
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