From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alan E. Davis" Subject: Re: Re: zotero (or mendeley) integration with org Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:40:56 +1000 Message-ID: References: <26045.1301154464@rgc.damtp.cam.ac.uk> <87aageppnf.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87ipv2cryn.fsf@lw-wireless-pittnet-40-144.wireless.pitt.edu> <8739m6oyqf.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87wrjfaw11.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d647f061b161049fe59f53 Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45898 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q5pq4-0000tE-Id for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:41:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5pq2-0003N9-VJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:41:20 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:45465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5pq2-0003Mr-M1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:41:18 -0400 Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so4081879wwb.30 for ; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:41:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87wrjfaw11.fsf@fastmail.fm> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matt Lundin Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Stephen Eglen --0016e6d647f061b161049fe59f53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is it possible to use org babel to extract bibtex entries from file of notes to a *.bib file? The stumbling point for me in saving bibtex sources is I don't see a way to use the file as a bibtex *.bib file so as to use that as the direct source for the publication. Perhaps this could be automated with babel? Alan On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Matt Lundin wrote: > Stephen Eglen writes: > > >> Agreed. Google Scholar citations need very close proofreading, as they > >> can be erroneous or poorly formatted. > > > > Thanks Matt - I'd agree with this, having seen oddities from google > > scholar. I emailed them ages ago about one problem (formatting of > > initials in author names), but never heard back... it is a pity that > > there is no mechanism for tidying up their references, as it seems to be > > the best thing out there that covers all the fields. > > > > Having said that, if google scholar can save me some typing, I'll > > happilyuse it as a starting point for a bibtex entry. I've just started > > using pdfmeat -- this is nice, as given a pdf, it outputs the > > corresponding bibtex entry from google scholar. Probably works similar > > to the way zotero does it, but can be used straight from the command > > line: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pdfmeat/ > > > > Thanks for the link! That looks like a useful tool. > > >> accessed by bibsnarf are limited to math and sciences. Since I use > >> biblatex together with the Chicago Manual of Style, any bibtex entry I > >> clip has to be edited and tweaked substantially. (Indeed, manual editing > >> is unavoidable when using biblatex.) > > > > If its not too tangential, why do you use biblatex -- is it the future > > for bibtex? > > I use biblatex because I use citation styles in the humanities > (especially the Chicago Manual of Style). Biblatex and the chicago-notes > package (both now part of TeXLive) handle Chicago Style footnotes and > bibliographies beautifully, with an astounding number of options and > flawless formatting -- but the bibtex entries are a bit fussier than > standard bibtex. > > Best, > Matt > > --0016e6d647f061b161049fe59f53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible to use org babel to extract bibtex entries from file of note= s to a *.bib file?=A0

The stumbling point for me in saving bibtex s= ources is I don't see a way to use the file as a bibtex *.bib file so a= s to use that as the direct source for the publication.=A0 Perhaps this cou= ld be automated with babel?

Alan

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:13 AM, = Matt Lundin <mdl@i= mapmail.org> wrote:
Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk> writes:

>> Agreed. Google Scholar citations need very= close proofreading, as they
>> can be erroneous or poorly formatted.
>
> Thanks Matt - I'd agree with this, having seen oddities from googl= e
> scholar. =A0I emailed them ages ago about one problem (formatting of > initials in author names), but never heard back... it is a pity that > there is no mechanism for tidying up their references, as it seems to = be
> the best thing out there that covers all the fields.
>
> Having said that, if google scholar can save me some typing, I'll<= br> > happilyuse it as a starting point for a bibtex entry. =A0I've just= started
> using pdfmeat -- this is nice, as given a pdf, it outputs the
> corresponding bibtex entry from google scholar. =A0Probably works simi= lar
> to the way zotero does it, but can be used straight from the command > line:
>
> =A0 ht= tp://code.google.com/p/pdfmeat/
>

Thanks for the link! That looks like a useful tool.

>> accessed by bibsnarf are limited to math and sciences. Since I use=
>> biblatex together with the Chicago Manual of Style, any bibtex ent= ry I
>> clip has to be edited and tweaked substantially. (Indeed, manual e= diting
>> is unavoidable when using biblatex.)
>
> If its not too tangential, why do you use biblatex -- is it the future=
> for bibtex?

I use biblatex because I use citation styles in the humanities
(especially the Chicago Manual of Style). Biblatex and the chicago-notes package (both now part of TeXLive) handle Chicago Style footnotes and
bibliographies beautifully, with an astounding number of options and
flawless formatting -- but the bibtex entries are a bit fussier than
standard bibtex.

Best,
Matt


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