From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Pretty org-entities in org-mode buffers Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:18:40 +0200 Message-ID: <9B0C4F09-0C08-4584-A3CD-30EFEEFFDEAC@gmail.com> References: <87zl0e2ue7.fsf@gmail.com> <87bpcfh7ug.fsf@gmail.com> <3A7EAF5A-4F8C-4C88-94E9-9F2B1F66BE9B@gmail.com> <871vdafu85.fsf@gmail.com> <53A6365D-CBCF-4C33-B4B1-B6EF81713752@gmail.com> <877hmg2eeo.fsf@gmail.com> <87fx1274ak.fsf@gmail.com> <87ocfpalwy.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44870 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OKpWg-0001AE-AN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:18:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OKpWf-000380-CX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:18:46 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f214.google.com ([209.85.219.214]:62068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OKpWf-00037o-5M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:18:45 -0400 Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so1081058ewy.32 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:18:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ocfpalwy.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk Cc: Org Mode On Jun 5, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:42:59 -0600, "Eric Schulte" > wrote: > > [...] > >>> The only thing missing is a little sketch tool in Emacs, fast enough >>> to be used while taking notes... :-) >>> >> >> I often use ditaa or example blocks with artist mode when I'm taking >> notes, but the use of artist mode isn't quite "natural" -- although I >> doubt you could do any better encoding sketches in plain text. > > Carsten, > > I also use ditaa with artist although it's not the most pleasant > experience unfortunately. I find artist mode very useful but also > rather idiosyncratic at times... > > More importantly, there are some issues with the interaction between > org-mode and artist diagrams, specifically that org-mode sometimes > interprets artist diagrams as tables (e.g. if you have a vertical line > as the first non-whitespace character on every line of the diagram, > something that often happens when drawing a graph, say. Once org-mode > has decided that the diagram is actually an org table, editing in > source mode no longer works. > > For instance, the following diagram (something to do with heat > exchanger networks, if you really want to know ;-) is interpreted as a > table: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > #+begin_src ditaa :file test.png :result file > | > | ------------> > | > | > | <--------- > | > | > | -----------> > | > | > #+end_src > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > There is, of course, an easy way out which is to type any character > other than a | as the first non-whitespace character of the first > line... Hi Eric, under what circumstances does Org interpret this as a table? Not during export, I find. Editing should be done with C-c ' I now see that this does indeed not work in this case.... :( > > I guess org-mode should not be interpreting anything between begin_src > and end_src lines? Certainly trying to do this... - Carsten