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* trouble with Imenu integration
@ 2010-07-09 10:33 Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-09 19:23 ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-16 17:36 ` trouble with Imenu integration David Maus
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Gilbert @ 2010-07-09 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

And another....

Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):

	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))

But I get this error:

	Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ’org-mode-hook)
	  (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
	  eval((add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu"))))
	  eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
	  eval-last-sexp(nil)
	  call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)


What am I missing?

— Michael

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* why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-09 10:33 trouble with Imenu integration Michael Gilbert
@ 2010-07-09 19:23 ` Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-09 20:09   ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? Bernt Hansen
  2010-07-09 20:31   ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Eric S Fraga
  2010-07-16 17:36 ` trouble with Imenu integration David Maus
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Gilbert @ 2010-07-09 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

I guess my main question is why org-mode-hook would be a void variable. Did I not capture something from the instructions in the manual? Is there something that needs to be set before hand? I'm just not sure where to look.

— Michael


On Jul 9,2010, at 3:33 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:

> Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
> 
> 	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
> 		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
> 
> But I get this error:
> 
> 	Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ’org-mode-hook)
> 	  (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
> 	  eval((add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu"))))
> 	  eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
> 	  eval-last-sexp(nil)
> 	  call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)

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* Re: why would org-mode-hook be a void variable?
  2010-07-09 19:23 ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Michael Gilbert
@ 2010-07-09 20:09   ` Bernt Hansen
  2010-07-11 23:43     ` Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-09 20:31   ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Eric S Fraga
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2010-07-09 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Gilbert; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

Michael Gilbert <mcg@gilbert.org> writes:

> I guess my main question is why org-mode-hook would be a void
> variable. Did I not capture something from the instructions in the
> manual? Is there something that needs to be set before hand? I'm just
> not sure where to look.

Did you initialize org-mode with

(require 'org-install)

?

-Bernt

>
> — Michael
>
>
> On Jul 9,2010, at 3:33 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
>> 
>> 	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
>> 		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
>> 
>> But I get this error:
>> 
>> 	Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ’org-mode-hook)
>> 	  (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
>> 	  eval((add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu"))))
>> 	  eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
>> 	  eval-last-sexp(nil)
>> 	  call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)
>
>
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* Re: why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-09 19:23 ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-09 20:09   ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? Bernt Hansen
@ 2010-07-09 20:31   ` Eric S Fraga
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2010-07-09 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Gilbert; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:23:47 -0700, Michael Gilbert <mcg@gilbert.org> wrote:
> 
> I guess my main question is why org-mode-hook would be a void variable. Did I not capture something from the instructions in the manual? Is there something that needs to be set before hand? I'm just not sure where to look.
> 
> — Michael
> 
> 
> On Jul 9,2010, at 3:33 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> 
> > Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
> > 
> > 	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
> > 		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
> > 
> > But I get this error:
> > 
> > 	Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ’org-mode-hook)
> > 	  (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
> > 	  eval((add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu"))))
> > 	  eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
> > 	  eval-last-sexp(nil)
> > 	  call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)
> 
> 
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Should you not quote the lambda expression?  As in

  (add-hook 'org-mode-hook '(lambda () ...))


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* Re: why would org-mode-hook be a void variable?
  2010-07-09 20:09   ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? Bernt Hansen
@ 2010-07-11 23:43     ` Michael Gilbert
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Gilbert @ 2010-07-11 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist


>> I guess my main question is why org-mode-hook would be a void
>> variable. Did I not capture something from the instructions in the
>> manual? Is there something that needs to be set before hand? I'm just
>> not sure where to look.
> 
> Did you initialize org-mode with
> 
> (require 'org-install)

Yes. Made sure of it. No change.

Any other ideas?

— Michael

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* Re: trouble with Imenu integration
  2010-07-09 10:33 trouble with Imenu integration Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-09 19:23 ` why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Michael Gilbert
@ 2010-07-16 17:36 ` David Maus
  2010-07-16 20:21   ` possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Michael Gilbert
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Maus @ 2010-07-16 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Gilbert; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist


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Michael Gilbert wrote:
>And another....

>Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
                  
>	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
>		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))

Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's 

'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)

not

’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)

HTH,
  -- David
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* possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-16 17:36 ` trouble with Imenu integration David Maus
@ 2010-07-16 20:21   ` Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-16 20:33     ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Gilbert @ 2010-07-16 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

On Jul 16,2010, at 10:36 AM, David Maus wrote:

>> Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
> 
>> 	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
>> 		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
> 
> Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's 
> 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)
> not
> ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)

Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing. Thank you regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect character has on the LISP processing? The error returned was related the name of the variable...

Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks like the single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode 8217. (And of course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything wrong when I typed it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I have this vague notion that I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF is not, I think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in code.

— Michael

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* Re: possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-16 20:21   ` possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration) Michael Gilbert
@ 2010-07-16 20:33     ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-07-16 22:21       ` Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-17  6:34       ` David Maus
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-07-16 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Gilbert; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist


On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote:

> On Jul 16,2010, at 10:36 AM, David Maus wrote:
>
>>> Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end  
>>> of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
>>
>>> 	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook
>>> 		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
>>
>> Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's
>> 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)
>> not
>> ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)
>
> Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing.  
> Thank you regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect  
> character has on the LISP processing? The error returned was related  
> the name of the variable...
>
> Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks  
> like the single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode  
> 8217. (And of course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything  
> wrong when I typed it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I  
> have this vague notion that I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML  
> version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF is not, I  
> think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the  
> single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in  
> code.

Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.

- Carsten

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* Re: possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-16 20:33     ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-07-16 22:21       ` Michael Gilbert
  2010-07-17  6:34       ` David Maus
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Gilbert @ 2010-07-16 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

>>>> Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
>>> 
>>>> 	(add-hook ’org-mode-hook
>>>> 		   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar "Imenu")))
>>> 
>>> Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's
>>> 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)
>>> not
>>> ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)
>> 
>> Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing. Thank you regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect character has on the LISP processing? The error returned was related the name of the variable...
>> 
>> Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks like the single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode 8217. (And of course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything wrong when I typed it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I have this vague notion that I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF is not, I think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in code.
> 
> Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.

I am ignorant of LATEX and your particular architectural challenges of course. But the way scripts like John Grubers SmartyPants does it is by only converting those quote marks that are outside of tags indicating that the section is code or other exempt section (in HTML these would be  <pre>, <code>, <kbd>, or<script>). 

— Michael

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* Re: possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-16 20:33     ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-07-16 22:21       ` Michael Gilbert
@ 2010-07-17  6:34       ` David Maus
  2010-07-18  6:05         ` Carsten Dominik
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Maus @ 2010-07-17  6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Michael Gilbert, emacs-orgmode Mailinglist


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Carsten Dominik wrote:

>Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.

This is a known problem and texinfo provides the options

,----
| @set txicodequoteundirected
|     causes the output for the ' character to be the undirected single quote, like this:
|
|     '.
| @set txicodequotebacktick
|     Cause the output for the ` character to be the standalone grave accent, like this:
|
|     `.
`----
http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/manual/texinfo/Inserting-Quote-Characters.html

To make these options work the file texinfo.tex in doc has to replaced
by a recent version.  Here it is located at

/usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex

Compiling the manual with this texinfo.tex works fine and the quotes

HTH,
  -- David

[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2006-06/msg00002.html
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* Re: possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-17  6:34       ` David Maus
@ 2010-07-18  6:05         ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-07-18  7:45           ` [PATCH] Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output David Maus
  2010-07-18  9:05           ` possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration) David Maus
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-07-18  6:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Maus; +Cc: Michael Gilbert, emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

Hi David,

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:34 AM, David Maus wrote:

> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>> Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.
>
> This is a known problem and texinfo provides the options
>
> ,----
> | @set txicodequoteundirected
> |     causes the output for the ' character to be the undirected  
> single quote, like this:
> |
> |     '.
> | @set txicodequotebacktick
> |     Cause the output for the ` character to be the standalone  
> grave accent, like this:
> |
> |     `.
> `----
> http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/manual/texinfo/Inserting-Quote-Characters.html
>
> To make these options work the file texinfo.tex in doc has to replaced
> by a recent version.  Here it is located at
>
> /usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex
>
> Compiling the manual with this texinfo.tex works fine and the quotes

Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the manual  
and also replaces
texinfo.tex?

Thanks you for squashing an old and annoying bug.

- Carsten

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* [PATCH] Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output
  2010-07-18  6:05         ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-07-18  7:45           ` David Maus
  2010-07-18  9:08             ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-07-18  9:05           ` possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration) David Maus
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Maus @ 2010-07-18  7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

> Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the manual  
> and also replaces
> texinfo.tex?

Here we go.  Added texinfo options to org.texi and orgguide.texi +
update texinfo.tex to 4.13, shipped on Debian testing.

HTH,
 -- David


David Maus (1):
  Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output

 doc/org.texi      |    5 +
 doc/orgguide.texi |    5 +
 doc/texinfo.tex   | 8271 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
 3 files changed, 5300 insertions(+), 2981 deletions(-)

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* Re: possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-18  6:05         ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-07-18  7:45           ` [PATCH] Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output David Maus
@ 2010-07-18  9:05           ` David Maus
  2010-07-18  9:51             ` Carsten Dominik
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Maus @ 2010-07-18  9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Michael Gilbert, emacs-orgmode Mailinglist


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Carsten Dominik wrote:
>Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the manual
>and also replaces
>texinfo.tex?

Looks like the message with the patch is to large for the mailing list
(returns to sender).  So there is

git://github.com/dmj/dmj-org-mode.git fix/doc-texinfo-template

to pull from.

HTH,
  -- David
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* Re: [PATCH] Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output
  2010-07-18  7:45           ` [PATCH] Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output David Maus
@ 2010-07-18  9:08             ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-07-18  9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Maus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi David,

look like you forgot to attach the patch?

Thanks!

- Carsten

On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:45 AM, David Maus wrote:

>> Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the  
>> manual
>> and also replaces
>> texinfo.tex?
>
> Here we go.  Added texinfo options to org.texi and orgguide.texi +
> update texinfo.tex to 4.13, shipped on Debian testing.
>
> HTH,
> -- David
>
>
> David Maus (1):
>  Use proper quote and backtick in PDF output
>
> doc/org.texi      |    5 +
> doc/orgguide.texi |    5 +
> doc/texinfo.tex   | 8271 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
> +-------------------
> 3 files changed, 5300 insertions(+), 2981 deletions(-)
>
>
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- Carsten

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* Re: possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
  2010-07-18  9:05           ` possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration) David Maus
@ 2010-07-18  9:51             ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-07-18  9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Maus; +Cc: Michael Gilbert, emacs-orgmode Mailinglist


On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:05 AM, David Maus wrote:

> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the  
>> manual
>> and also replaces
>> texinfo.tex?
>
> Looks like the message with the patch is to large for the mailing list
> (returns to sender).  So there is
>
> git://github.com/dmj/dmj-org-mode.git fix/doc-texinfo-template
>
> to pull from.

Great, thanks.


- Carsten

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