From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:04:55 +0200 Message-ID: <996130F9-9522-4C0C-923B-A3569336F688@gmail.com> References: <87zkl1tv44.fsf@gnu.org> <2011-06-29T22-26-24@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59847) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcKfm-0002Ft-FS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:05:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcKfk-00045t-9m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:05:02 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:42498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcKfj-00045l-OT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:05:00 -0400 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so961986ewy.0 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Thomas S. Dye" Cc: news1142@Karl-Voit.at, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 30.6.2011, at 08:35, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Aloha Karl, > > I agree that AucTeX is awesome. I use it every day at work with much > pleasure. > > I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible > research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. In my > case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass > results between code blocks written in different languages. I can't do > these things in AucTeX. > > At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and > LaTeX. I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little things > work right. I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd like > from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently > that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode. Are these publicly accessible? I think that would be a great advertisement for Org as a publishing environment if you could link to source and paper.... - Carsten > The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. I'm really liking it as > an > authoring environment. > > All the best, > Tom > > > Karl Voit writes: > >> * Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>> Aloha Rafael, >> >> Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of >> view. >> >> First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now >> and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners. >> >>> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? I find >>> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in indirect >>> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. For my work, that >>> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files. >> >> I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that >> you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via >> LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode. >> >> On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written >> very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to >> add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting >> this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too >> and so forth. >> >> In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick >> to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune >> because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for >> LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and >> RefTeX). >> >> I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents, >> where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part >> to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document >> content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for >> writing documents that end up being great PDFs. >> >> But this is just my point of view. > > -- > Thomas S. Dye > http://www.tsdye.com >