Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Susan Cragin]

-----Original Message-----
>From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 24, 2013 11:16 AM
>To: Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net>
>Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>Subject: Re: [O] One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down
>
>
>On 24.2.2013, at 16:53, Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> I use Meta-up-arrow and Meta-down-arrow to move headings in org and entries in spreadsheets. 
>> Would like to be able to use the same or similar command to move blocks of text up or down. 
>> The current solution--highlight then kill/yank--is just too slow.
>> Suggestions?
>
>Hi Susan,
>
>what do you mean by "blocks".  A paragraph?  Does the command
>
>M-x mark-paragraph
>
>select the right amount of text?  If so, you could try the command transpose-paragraphs.
>
>- Carsten

No. I have the following example. Each of these sentences is a paragraph because it has a carriage return after it. I need to re-order the sentence/paragraphs into correct order. 

** Journal
This is paragraph three. 
This is paragraph two. 
This is paragraph one. 

** Other Heading

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Nick Dokos]

Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
> >On 24.2.2013, at 16:53, Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I use Meta-up-arrow and Meta-down-arrow to move headings in org and entries in spreadsheets. 
> >> Would like to be able to use the same or similar command to move blocks of text up or down. 
> >> The current solution--highlight then kill/yank--is just too slow.
> >> Suggestions?
> >
> >Hi Susan,
> >
> >what do you mean by "blocks".  A paragraph?  Does the command
> >
> >M-x mark-paragraph
> >
> >select the right amount of text?  If so, you could try the command transpose-paragraphs.
> >
> >- Carsten
> 
> No. I have the following example. Each of these sentences is a
> paragraph because it has a carriage return after it. I need to
> re-order the sentence/paragraphs into correct order.
> 
> ** Journal
> This is paragraph three. 
> This is paragraph two. 
> This is paragraph one. 
> 
> ** Other Heading
> 

That's a "word processor" definition of a paragraph that doesn't really
work with an editor like emacs. It is more likely you will find
paragraph nirvana in emacs if you follow the TeX model where paragraphs
are separated by empty lines.  For example, there are newlines after
each line of this block of text, and an empty line separating it from
the next block of text, so emacs considers each of these blocks a
paragraph: try M-x mark-paragraph and you will see (transient-mark-mode
helps to see the boundaries).

So if you have a second paragraph like this, you can use Carsten's
suggestion of M-x transpose-paragraphs and switch them around (point has
to be somewhere in the first paragraph, including the empty line
separating it from the second for this to work).

If your "paragraphs" are single lines, as in your example, you can use
transpose-lines to move the lines around (bound to C-x C-t).

HTH,
Nick

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Bastien]

Hi Susan,

Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> writes:

> No. I have the following example. Each of these sentences is a paragraph
> because it has a carriage return after it. 

That's your definition but that's not what Emacs and Org understand.
By default, a paragraph needs at least two line breaks.

> I need to re-order the
> sentence/paragraphs into correct order.
>
> ** Journal
> This is paragraph three. 
> This is paragraph two. 
> This is paragraph one. 
>
> ** Other Heading

So you need S-M-<up/down> which moves the line at point up/down.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Susan Cragin]

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>>>M-up and M-down also move paragraphs and most blocks (in Org 7.9).
>>>Unfortunately, binding is shadowed when trying to move a src block.
>>
>> When I try that I get these messages:
>> Cannot drag this element forward. 
>> Cannot drag this element backward.
>
>Can you share the file on which you tested this?

Here is the file. Most elements have been removed. The test was under today's date. 

>If there is only one paragraph under a headline, you cannot move
>it up and down, the move is constrained by the structure of the
>file.
>
>Check also C-M-t (Control Meta t) to transpose elements and
>S-M-<up/down> to move a line up and down (this last command is
>structure-agnostic and can be handy sometimes.)

Hmmm.... 
S-M-<up/down> should be the ticket but doesn't work for me. 
Assume this is SHIFT-ALT (held down together) up arrow. 
Also tried SHIFT-ESC up. 


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Hello this is a test.
This is a test too. 
This is three.
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Have to finish student papers.

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Bastien]

Hi Susan,

Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> writes:

> Hmmm.... 
> S-M-<up/down> should be the ticket but doesn't work for me. 
> Assume this is SHIFT-ALT (held down together) up arrow. 
> Also tried SHIFT-ESC up. 

Yes, this is shift-alt-up/down, but I just fixed it.

If git is installed on your system, please update Org from
cloning the repository:
  
  ~$ cd git/
  ~$ git clone git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git
  ~$ cd org-mode/
  ~$ make

Then add the directory to your load-path as described in
the manual:

  http://orgmode.org/org.html#Installation

Otherwise I'm afraid you'll have to wait till Org is
updated on your system.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Susan Cragin]

>M-up and M-down also move paragraphs and most blocks (in Org 7.9).
>Unfortunately, binding is shadowed when trying to move a src block.

When I try that I get these messages:
Cannot drag this element forward. 
Cannot drag this element backward.

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Bastien]

Hi Susan,

Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> writes:

>>M-up and M-down also move paragraphs and most blocks (in Org 7.9).
>>Unfortunately, binding is shadowed when trying to move a src block.
>
> When I try that I get these messages:
> Cannot drag this element forward. 
> Cannot drag this element backward.

Can you share the file on which you tested this?

If there is only one paragraph under a headline, you cannot move
it up and down, the move is constrained by the structure of the
file.

Check also C-M-t (Control Meta t) to transpose elements and
S-M-<up/down> to move a line up and down (this last command is
structure-agnostic and can be handy sometimes.)

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Susan Cragin]

I use Meta-up-arrow and Meta-down-arrow to move headings in org and entries in spreadsheets. 
Would like to be able to use the same or similar command to move blocks of text up or down. 
The current solution--highlight then kill/yank--is just too slow.
Suggestions?

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Carsten Dominik]

On 24.2.2013, at 16:53, Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I use Meta-up-arrow and Meta-down-arrow to move headings in org and entries in spreadsheets. 
> Would like to be able to use the same or similar command to move blocks of text up or down. 
> The current solution--highlight then kill/yank--is just too slow.
> Suggestions?

Hi Susan,

what do you mean by "blocks".  A paragraph?  Does the command

M-x mark-paragraph

select the right amount of text?  If so, you could try the command transpose-paragraphs.

- Carsten

> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: One-keystroke command to move blocks of text up and down

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:

> On 24.2.2013, at 16:53, Susan Cragin <susancragin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> I use Meta-up-arrow and Meta-down-arrow to move headings in org and entries in spreadsheets. 
>> Would like to be able to use the same or similar command to move blocks of text up or down. 
>> The current solution--highlight then kill/yank--is just too slow.
>> Suggestions?
>
> Hi Susan,
>
> what do you mean by "blocks".  A paragraph?  Does the command
>
> M-x mark-paragraph
>
> select the right amount of text?  If so, you could try the command
> transpose-paragraphs.

M-up and M-down also move paragraphs and most blocks (in Org 7.9).
Unfortunately, binding is shadowed when trying to move a src block.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou