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[66.111.4.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a16sm271570qko.92.2020.05.19.11.50.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 May 2020 11:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5D027C0058 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 14:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap1 ([10.202.2.51]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 19 May 2020 14:50:47 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedruddtjedguddvkecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesth dtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdflrghmvghsucftucfoihhllhgvrhdfuceojhgrmhgv shdrrhihlhgrnhgurdhmihhllhgvrhesghhmrghilhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvg hrnhepgffhleevgedvhfffkeethfffkefhudevhfeiudeiieevieehheefkedvuddtteei necuffhomhgrihhnpehorhhgmhhouggvrdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd enucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhrmhdomhgvshhmthhprghuthhhphgvrhhs ohhnrghlihhthidqieegleduudeigeekqdduieeludefjeejiedqjhgrmhgvshdrrhihlh grnhgurdhmihhllhgvrheppehgmhgrihhlrdgtohhmsehtghhrphhgrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 52BC0C200A4; Tue, 19 May 2020 14:50:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-dev0-464-g810d66a-fmstable-20200518v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <91d36855-ff5d-46cf-91b8-2621fb5cfcab@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20200519172941.GR30250@volibear> References: <20200519165720.GQ30250@volibear> <20200519172941.GR30250@volibear> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 13:50:26 -0500 From: "James R Miller" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: issue tracker? Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::835; envelope-from=james.ryland.miller@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x835.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=vdvoPtkY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.30 X-TUID: ZhrjTSkDzvZj So, I definitely agree that using Github / Gitlab does expose you to tracking messes and that is something to shun. I figured a self-hosted Gogs instance (which is already being hosted at https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode) would fix the "tracking" issue. I think an actual issue tracker has merit to large projects. And I don't think simply saying "we've always done it through a ML" or "$FOO project is bigger than us and uses a ML" is good enough. $FOO project may very well increase efficiency, code quality, and/or participation by implementing an issue tracker. A project to consider then, might be some sort of system that interfaces with the ML (as well as a simple REST api so that issues could be submitted from inside emacs directly), that creates some sort of org-based issue tracker, and then ox-html exports to a static web page or pages. -- James Miller james.ryland.miller@gmail.com