Re: Re: RELEASE: Org-mode 6.08a

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>]

On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Manish wrote:

>  On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Austin Frank wrote:
>> As always, thanks so much for the hard work!  And also to John!
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 05 2008, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>>> New attachment system
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>    You can now attach files to each node in the outline tree.  This
>>>    works by creating special directories based on the ID of an  
>>> entry,
>>>    and storing files in these directories.  Org can keep track of
>>>    changes to the attachments by automatically committing changes to
>>>    git.  See the manual for more information.
>>>
>>>    Thanks to John Wiegley who contributed this fantastic new concept
>>>    and wrote org-attach.el to implement it.
>>
>> Well!  My curiosity's certainly piqued, but I confess that I don't  
>> quite
>> get the applications here.  Any chance Carsten or John would be  
>> willing
>> to let us know how they're using this?
>
> Let me take a stab at it.
>
> 1. Create a test file. test.org
> 2. Add a task to it.
> 3. Do `C-c C-a' while on the task.
> 4. Press `a' from the launcher menu to add an attachment.
> 5. Select a file to be attached to it (somewhere in a subdirectory
>   named data where org files are contained (careful, it will /move/
>   the file, not copy it.)
> 6. Attach another file to it using #3-5 (or use `c'.)
> 7. Press `C-c C-a' followed by `o' to open an attachment from the
>   options.
>
> I am sure there's more to it but this was enough for me to be
> convinced of it's utility.  I just wish that:
>
> 1. it copied attachemnts instead of moving them (may be an option),
>   and

I have now:

- select the preferred method with org-attachment-method (cp or mv or  
ln)
- New keys `c', `m', `l' allow to select a specific method for a  
single attachment.
- Creating an attachment as an emacs buffer used to be on `c', it is  
now on `n'.


- Carsten



>
> 2. there was another option to archive the attachment directory from
> the launcher menu itself (a `Z' for zip, just like there is `D' for
> deletion.)
>
>>
>> Also, the synopsis above and the manual both mention git integration,
>> but I don't understand what exactly is done.  It sounds like if the  
>> org
>> file lives in a directory that is a git repo, any additions or  
>> changes
>> to the files in the auto-generated data/ subdirectory are  
>> automatically
>> committed?  Is this the right idea?  What does the synchronize  
>> command
>> do if the directory isn't a git repo?
>
> If the directory where attchments are kept/maintained (not the Org
> files themselves) is turned into a git repo, then org-attach.el will
> automatically commit changes to it.
>
>>
>> I am thrilled to see a move towards some nice defaults for org and  
>> git
>> integration.  I see that in org-attach.el you're using shell- 
>> command to
>> call git directly.  If you don't mind, may I ask if you considered  
>> using
>> git.el that is distributed with git (in contrib/emacs/), or even  
>> magit
>> (http://zagadka.vm.bytemark.co.uk/magit/)?
>
> I am not sure but I think git.el and magit.el etc. make it easier for
> the end-user to interact with git but org-attach.el just needs to
> execute add and commit on the git repo so an additional dependency can
> be avoided.
>
> As always, thank you Carsten and John for the amazing amazing
> software.
>
> -- Manish
>
>
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