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* Referencing TODO items
@ 2017-12-14 12:19 Paulo Matos
  2017-12-14 13:31 ` Michael Welle
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paulo Matos @ 2017-12-14 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi,

I have a TODO item that got stuck due to some unforseen circumstances.
Another TODO item is needed as a workaround therefore I have something like:

* TODO Implement using hash tables
  :LOGBOOK:
  - Note taken on ... \\
  Stuck because...
  :END:

* TODO Implement using hand written maps
  This is required because todo item REF was stuck. If unstuck, we can
remove this implementation.

How can I REF the first TODO item in the second?

Thanks,

-- 
Paulo Matos

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 12:19 Referencing TODO items Paulo Matos
@ 2017-12-14 13:31 ` Michael Welle
  2017-12-14 13:56   ` Paulo Matos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Welle @ 2017-12-14 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have a TODO item that got stuck due to some unforseen circumstances.
> Another TODO item is needed as a workaround therefore I have something like:
>
> * TODO Implement using hash tables
>   :LOGBOOK:
>   - Note taken on ... \\
>   Stuck because...
>   :END:
>
> * TODO Implement using hand written maps
>   This is required because todo item REF was stuck. If unstuck, we can
> remove this implementation.
>
> How can I REF the first TODO item in the second?
do M-x org-store-link on the first TODO item and M-x org-insert-link
where you want to reference the first TODO item.

Regards
hmw

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 13:31 ` Michael Welle
@ 2017-12-14 13:56   ` Paulo Matos
  2017-12-14 14:20     ` Michael Welle
  2017-12-14 21:45     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paulo Matos @ 2017-12-14 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode



On 14/12/17 14:31, Michael Welle wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a TODO item that got stuck due to some unforseen circumstances.
>> Another TODO item is needed as a workaround therefore I have something like:
>>
>> * TODO Implement using hash tables
>>   :LOGBOOK:
>>   - Note taken on ... \\
>>   Stuck because...
>>   :END:
>>
>> * TODO Implement using hand written maps
>>   This is required because todo item REF was stuck. If unstuck, we can
>> remove this implementation.
>>
>> How can I REF the first TODO item in the second?
> do M-x org-store-link on the first TODO item and M-x org-insert-link
> where you want to reference the first TODO item.
> 

Interesting but it doesn't really work properly.

My TODO looks like:

* TODO add support for %lo and %hi operands in offsets

I create the link and the link has the name of the todo headline.
When I try to follow with C-c C-o, it says 'No match - create a new
heading?'. If I say yes, a new heading is created in my document that
looks like:

* *add support for ^@ and ^@ operands in offsets

I am curious why %hi and %lo would cause any troubles...

-- 
Paulo Matos

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 13:56   ` Paulo Matos
@ 2017-12-14 14:20     ` Michael Welle
  2017-12-14 14:31       ` Paulo Matos
  2017-12-15  7:29       ` Ken Mankoff
  2017-12-14 21:45     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Welle @ 2017-12-14 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:
[...]
> Interesting but it doesn't really work properly.
>
> My TODO looks like:
>
> * TODO add support for %lo and %hi operands in offsets
>
> I create the link and the link has the name of the todo headline.
> When I try to follow with C-c C-o, it says 'No match - create a new
> heading?'. If I say yes, a new heading is created in my document that
> looks like:
>
> * *add support for ^@ and ^@ operands in offsets
>
> I am curious why %hi and %lo would cause any troubles...
I can confirm that behaviour, but it doesn't bother me, because I use ;):

(setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive)

Regards
hmw

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 14:20     ` Michael Welle
@ 2017-12-14 14:31       ` Paulo Matos
  2017-12-14 16:57         ` Michael Welle
  2017-12-15  7:29       ` Ken Mankoff
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paulo Matos @ 2017-12-14 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode



On 14/12/17 15:20, Michael Welle wrote:
>>
>> I am curious why %hi and %lo would cause any troubles...
> I can confirm that behaviour, but it doesn't bother me, because I use ;):
> 
> (setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive)
> 

When I looked at it, it sounded that the only thing it does it to
automatically create the heading without prompting, however I ran into
troubles when testing. My org-mode doesn't have that variable (9.1.2)
and even if it did it wouldn't solve the problem (assuming I am correct
about its intended behaviour since I don't want a new heading, I want to
follow the link to the existing heading.


-- 
Paulo Matos

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 14:31       ` Paulo Matos
@ 2017-12-14 16:57         ` Michael Welle
  2017-12-15  9:32           ` Paulo Matos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Welle @ 2017-12-14 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:

> On 14/12/17 15:20, Michael Welle wrote:
>>>
>>> I am curious why %hi and %lo would cause any troubles...
>> I can confirm that behaviour, but it doesn't bother me, because I use ;):
>> 
>> (setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive)
>> 
>
> When I looked at it, it sounded that the only thing it does it to
> automatically create the heading without prompting, however I ran into
> troubles when testing. My org-mode doesn't have that variable (9.1.2)
it is from org-id. It gives the heading a unique id and uses that to
reference the heading instead of the heading's text. That way the
reference does not become invalid if the heading's text changes. And, as
a side effect, it works around the problem you found.


> and even if it did it wouldn't solve the problem (assuming I am correct
> about its intended behaviour since I don't want a new heading, I want to
> follow the link to the existing heading.
No, it doesn't solve the problem. I guess the problem is that the
heading's text is fed to a format form or something like that.

Regards
hmw

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 13:56   ` Paulo Matos
  2017-12-14 14:20     ` Michael Welle
@ 2017-12-14 21:45     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2017-12-15  7:24       ` Paulo Matos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2017-12-14 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paulo Matos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:

> My TODO looks like:
>
> * TODO add support for %lo and %hi operands in offsets
>
> I create the link and the link has the name of the todo headline.
> When I try to follow with C-c C-o, it says 'No match - create a new
> heading?'. If I say yes, a new heading is created in my document that
> looks like:
>
> * *add support for ^@ and ^@ operands in offsets
>
> I am curious why %hi and %lo would cause any troubles...

This is because % are not properly escaped, so `org-link-unescape'
turns %hi into ^@.

This is now fixed. Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 21:45     ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2017-12-15  7:24       ` Paulo Matos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paulo Matos @ 2017-12-15  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode



On 14/12/17 22:45, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:
> 
>> My TODO looks like:
>>
>> * TODO add support for %lo and %hi operands in offsets
>>
>> I create the link and the link has the name of the todo headline.
>> When I try to follow with C-c C-o, it says 'No match - create a new
>> heading?'. If I say yes, a new heading is created in my document that
>> looks like:
>>
>> * *add support for ^@ and ^@ operands in offsets
>>
>> I am curious why %hi and %lo would cause any troubles...
> 
> This is because % are not properly escaped, so `org-link-unescape'
> turns %hi into ^@.
> 
> This is now fixed. Thank you.
> 

Perfect.
Thanks for the quick fix.

> Regards,
> 

-- 
Paulo Matos

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 14:20     ` Michael Welle
  2017-12-14 14:31       ` Paulo Matos
@ 2017-12-15  7:29       ` Ken Mankoff
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ken Mankoff @ 2017-12-15  7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Welle; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


On 2017-12-14 at 14:20, Michael Welle <mwe012008@gmx.net> wrote:
> I can confirm that behaviour, but it doesn't bother me, because I use
>
> (setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive)

This is a nice feature/solution but I'd like to point out to others reading it that there may be a better option that uses custom IDs if they exist:

(setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive-and-no-custom-id)

  -k.

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-14 16:57         ` Michael Welle
@ 2017-12-15  9:32           ` Paulo Matos
  2017-12-15 10:01             ` Michael Welle
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paulo Matos @ 2017-12-15  9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Welle, emacs-orgmode



On 14/12/17 17:57, Michael Welle wrote:
> it is from org-id.

Can't seem to find org-id on melpa or org mode contrib page.
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/

can you please point me to where i can find it?

-- 
Paulo Matos

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* Re: Referencing TODO items
  2017-12-15  9:32           ` Paulo Matos
@ 2017-12-15 10:01             ` Michael Welle
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Welle @ 2017-12-15 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Paulo Matos <paulo@matos-sorge.com> writes:

> On 14/12/17 17:57, Michael Welle wrote:
>> it is from org-id.
>
> Can't seem to find org-id on melpa or org mode contrib page.
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/
>
> can you please point me to where i can find it?
org-id should be part of the org package as well as of the
org-plus-contrib package.

Regards
hmw

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2017-12-14 14:31       ` Paulo Matos
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