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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u11sm18684738pjy.17.2020.12.14.10.04.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:04:15 -0800 (PST) References: <87o8kf69tm.fsf@ucc.asn.au> <87v9d66l75.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6ugpftr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dpkpefs.fsf@gmail.com> <20201214173911.GD6352@maokai> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: TEC To: Russell Adams Subject: Re: Emacs as an Org LSP server Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 01:45:29 +0800 In-reply-to: <20201214173911.GD6352@maokai> Message-ID: <87zh2gnu1v.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::42f; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x42f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=eaR7g9rr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E995C94042E X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: C85y4+qNj3Us Russell Adams writes: > LSP is also REST based, so your editor how has to talk to a web > *server* over a network. This could be central, and not just on your > machine. How would you know in an update that didn't happen? This just ... isn't right. It's not even REST based, it's using JSON-RPC, and most servers use stdout + stdin. I'm afraid this simply isn't accurate. I'm going to ignore the genetic fallacy re: Microsoft. > I'm not interested in spending any time improving an LSP for Org which > would give non-free editors additional functionality with Org files. Because I feel that the rest of the points have been addressed, I'll just cover this. Looking at https://langserver.org/, the list of current editors that have LSP clients is: - Acme - PROPRIETRY! C++ Builder - PROPRIETRY! Delphi - Eclipse - Eclipse Che - Emacs (x2) - GNATStudio - PROPRIETRY! IntelliJ - Kakoune - Kate - Moonshine IDE - Oni - VSCode - NeoVim (x5) - PROPRIETRY! Sublime Text 3 - Atom - CodeMirror - Theia - Spyder IDE - Qt Creator - Ycmd - Brackets - JupyterLab Note that the majority of the above, (and if considering usage: vast majority), are *free*. If your issue is that there is the potential for some non-free applications to also benefit from this ... the logical conclusion is that we should stop using the GPL licence, because it allows *anyone* (including non-free applications) to benefit --- thus inherently making the work itself /less/ free =F0=9F=98=91. -- Timothy.