From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id yJhfF0jYWmGyZwEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 12:32:40 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id QDAdE0jYWmGVEwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:32:40 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2A17237EC for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:32:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60816 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXLGw-000277-UJ for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:32:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53112) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXLG5-00023S-2v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:31:46 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:46498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXLG2-0007eR-Vz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:31:44 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXLFy-0002jR-Cl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 12:31:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Adam Porter Subject: Re: org-element.el change in emacs.git Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 05:31:29 -0500 Message-ID: <87zgrpf5dq.fsf@alphapapa.net> References: <874ka1r0nk.fsf@alphapapa.net> <874ka1qxw9.fsf@kyleam.com> <87v92hphl1.fsf@alphapapa.net> <874k9ymaia.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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It seems like it could >> be a burden, requiring someone like you to track them and merge them, >> but there's probably a good reason for this workflow. >> > > Speaking from personal experience/observations, as far as I know the > Emacs developers don't have strict rules about having uni-directional > changes. And this is not unique to Org; I've seen similar changes in > both directions in other projects developed outside emacs.git that are > periodically merged into emacs.git. Eliminating the need for keeping > track of such changes is one potential argument for developing Org -- > and those other similar packages -- inside emacs.git itself. :) That would be an interesting development, indeed. :) Thanks.