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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638201063; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=oIH1kbhJqBL950FZfGgwvpkpynlNEnDrZ7ziOR8FWPw=; b=OTBVnWo368y8cb23yMm62JyJbWdWdMmc3bNoNTGCHNB3kr/YYcSOBATOuZPDwP/89EyA9u tISa93abA5imz5h8b22eA+wCbEi7eQ1ATo6K6eKKtrcypaI6SirX0/kd/EjO/b10BbP+le MP0uh7KzH1+veOdPahgyRRtXEAYHEmE1Mj8DqcbneXviZXO6c+lNN/0ztaJaiD1l/0CGZv QjRimFtD6kDhvleiQhX5bdBShlWgWLLueVbXzzgnlpPu/wQXKANnLHJhnpe22ydeebXb9w HH8lgLr9PqUyjb/Bmpdf60idW63dMPva6OhG3b4PgQmKKIYlyI9sBNM2xR0epA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638201063; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=G0aZ1HBoNqLnu/nuxYx97Lv1vQ62+ixws1grKYp/GsGLRXrslo+V4qxzlpFpuf+eEM8d9c GICQL1BCXs5hoORIfAlTL5W/o7fwtvIBwnbI77FqhVrmExwCL5CPF4bJrDTXMwZebno6tk vdXlTHb8OTqe+lF+0VPfu8udjnZOI/8PSESQP69PESS1hzGm/M5slQe2MenVVFaIP0Pkil mT+3OewqfnsVWsJ7mXdlWZ88rWXZt6l3ckso4aMsJOe4ZK+LlQrVR/rTn83AQlgSRZEe+L isK/bdKHTjz5DbFx3UYMmUKhjad7WIjfhOjiO6Cg/i4xkQIIOw8NeyqAHv/COQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5ACD01375E X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: iMdEgwvymU74 Tim Cross writes: > I think something is very wrong if your Emacs 28 has org 9.3. I'm pretty > sure the earliest version which was bundled with Emacs 28 was 9.4 - it > is certainly 9.5 now and that is the version that will be bundled with > it when it is released. Fair enough -- I did think that was weird. I installed Emacs 28 as emacs-next via Guix, which I am new to; maybe it installed a very old build, or maybe something is screwed up in the load-path. Still, I think this is not relevant to the problem. I see the same problem on Emacs 27.2 (also installed via Guix) with the built-in Org 9.4.4. I also see it on both Emacs 27.2 and 28 when I load Org from the latest bugfix branch in git ("Org mode version 9.5.1 (release_9.5.1-13-gc91271 @ /home/rwl/src/org-mode/lisp/)"). Several other people have confirmed that they see it too -- two in this thread, one privately to me off-list. So I don't think it's a problem with my setup. But I'm still trying to get clear on where the problem could be. The functions involved (default-indent-new-line, org-comment-line-break-function, and insert-before-markers-and-inherit) mostly haven't been modified in a long time. What *has* changed is that M-j now calls this stack of functions, when it used to call comment-indent-new-line (in Emacs 26). In fact, if I run M-x default-indent-new-line in an Org buffer in Emacs 26 with the built-in Org 9.1.9, I get the same error. I think this issue has been lurking for a while -- it's just that the new binding brought it to the surface. -- Best, Richard