From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 2IpOA4qnO2LYDQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 00:04:42 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8CocAIqnO2LiNAAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 00:04:42 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 989BF464A1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 00:04:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60120 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXA1v-0004y7-Q7 for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:04:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXA1V-0004xz-Rm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:04:14 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:34537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXA1U-0000CV-3L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:04:13 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7281AC0003; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 References: <87wngosqvm.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <871qytlf49.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Max Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 00:04:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Max Nikulin's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:30:22 +0700") Message-ID: <87zglgi848.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.198; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay6-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1648076681; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=rT5RisLqdzNbMuLY+mH+g2gSCx0WU34qBwfnT04LOBw=; b=D5y1uXNRhP77bOd39/ieUuXVfHf8O7uV5mo2WKJnIFPlvWtTz9MN+ZwRNQaB6+PDIUHKia eTKDctrCUmOgMy7WXCj0Qas61rO2lkHc8PsPkhtMBvXzYjxsk8GJSX7Gaz125j5Tq0p4Tj vqAx7XvMokeYSyo8+JmhnsIxUCK7NkGCF0Mz+F9/EjYFJlWR+XrlG1S3DauSbPA5rkdYOv TXKfYgrWwznH3dnSSlLnSDcLk90PJps5h2ehJ/UYAxyap4EbWkyDqSLps2Dejod8uOv/Bp vXGzOI8fRUfCRUVZHUcsGFMVmzyH80sq+tYyH2dADMw9qb5UQ/pjOOzgOiCdEg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1648076681; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pKudcSmyRlvqS3W2aEil5veJeIQ5Qj1xs1RRZi6Q+Gakxg92eT53ujoPRAwkYoGqbxlhdF k5Y9uU/4kICcT3Rh50cH/yofkWoVQnWMgNsTDTNDHkDm9a9HKwE2Tyxb2rkd2xYy8hBz3W 7H1tkrna7nHMkBKOQPR007+rbb1x2Lv56MHGoEppa7qgYz/5canReCJxmfu3q51T4dEN6M iYDIf5OmCQ22W6AqDVLR8di/y3xvExtT/Tmffy28GI/c66SqtGzKMK1sVZ7O+0w+UyzEXK 96vleEX6TGy6pxcQsIw2BVpBU6ZRwp7f457iRbKAYwGrZhe7/Gzyurp10Mk1FA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.99 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 989BF464A1 X-Spam-Score: -2.99 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 7rdeuiHIezB/ Hello, Max Nikulin writes: > Nicolas, concerning a new thread, I have an impression that you are > busy with over activities since you are participating in discussions > not so frequently. So I am unsure at which moment it is appropriate to > raise such question that otherwise may just be buried in the list > archive. I don't see how my presence (or not) on the list relates to this. If there's an idea worth a discussion, it should not be buried within a thread. > Outside of Org, citations are links. But we're on an Org mailing list so=E2=80=A6 > I consider fixed set of properties as a problem. I don't think it is a problem for citations. > At first I tried to draw attention to additional link attributes. I think link attributes were discussed a couple of times on this ML already. Nothing was implemented tho. I'm not convinced Org should generalize this to any inline object, either, mainly because it sounds messy. Of course, if you have an idea on the subject, please share it. In any case, this is another topic, neither related to citations nor to cross-references. > For citations some values may be passed to specific citation backend > overriding default value derived from style. In that situation, you can define a new style specific to the citation back-end. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou