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In-Reply-To: <87y1u668v0.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Mon, 26 Sep 2022 12:46:27 +0800") Organization: GNU Message-ID: <87zgem4pkk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871qs6ygmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkrasnla.fsf@localhost> <871qs6li9l.fsf@gnu.org> <874jx2wqgi.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> <87czbq7ach.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsgmqu1h.fsf@localhost> <87r105xicb.fsf@localhost> <8735cgt99t.fsf@localhost> <87y1u668v0.fsf@localhost> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:29:12 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I don't know. People in charge of the #org-mode channel should decide. I'm fine with Org referring to #org-mode in both cases. > If so, it may be problematic even to quote the discussions there in Org > commit messages. > IMHO, it makes #org-mode a lot less usable for the purposes of Org > development. Deliberately public and unencrypted matrix #org-mode room > is better in this regard. Our commit messages should only refer to public archives of the Org mailing list (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ or https://list.orgmode.org). If a discussion on #org-mode or a GitHub repository is relevant for Org development, it has to be referred to in a thread on the list, which we can then be quoted for context in the commit message. -- Bastien