From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) Subject: Re: Problem with org-clock-persistence-insinuate in org-plus-contrib Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <87y5itnj5v.fsf@lapcat.tftorrey.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51187) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRpJF-0005c5-1A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:11:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRpJD-00043i-Rm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:11:08 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:35144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRpJD-00042m-Ki for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:11:07 -0400 Received: from mfilter15-d.gandi.net (mfilter15-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.143]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8A172086 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:11:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter15-d.gandi.net (mfilter15-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fGSPkSTQpFoZ for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:11:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lapcat.tftorrey.com.tftorrey.com (fat-69-171-172-97.evdo.leapwireless.net [69.171.172.97]) (Authenticated sender: tftorrey@tftorrey.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49CFC17207E for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:11:03 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org That's curious. Achim Gratz writes: > Actually, you will need to customize that variable if you want to use > ditaa. But the error is that ob-ditaa is missing a (require > 'org-compat), I've pushed a fix for that. But you may still do your > own customizations for Org too early, you should defer them to after > package-initialize has run. First, thanks so much for your help. My whole life is in Emacs and Org. My initial report should be amended, because after a few cycles, the error came back even with org-clock-persistence-insinuate commented out. I did not run and save a backtrace of that. I don't use ditaa at all, and I have no mention of it in my init file. Something else must have been pretty far off the rails to be calling it. Finally, the only things before package-initialize in my init file were some general Emacs interface settings (tool bar off, some others, I can post a list if anyone is interested). Nothing org related was before it. Nonetheless, when I move package-initialize to be the first thing in the init file, the problem goes away. Thanks again for your help. Best regards, Terry -- T.F. Torrey