From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] The statement on what is orgmode. Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:40:08 -0700 Message-ID: <87y5h93b3b.fsf_-_@gmail.com> References: <20121205222817.GA1243@panahar> <87hao06km3.fsf@pank.eu> <20121206032633.GA12314@panahar> <20121206230457.GA19292@panahar> <874njy93eh.fsf@gmail.com> <20121207010052.GB24269@panahar> <86sj7itfed.fsf@davidrogersmusic.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3mA-0006KV-KO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:40:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3m6-0005Wu-7A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com ([209.85.223.170]:58339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3m6-0005Wq-2b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:39:54 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id k10so3645934iea.1 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:39:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86sj7itfed.fsf@davidrogersmusic.ca> (David Rogers's message of "Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:50:00 -0800") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: David Rogers Cc: emacs-orgmode > > Things you can't do in Emacs that feel as if they *should* be practical, > even though they currently are not > > - Web browsing with ease, and with a full list of currently-expected > features (i.e. features to make the general public say "Wow! This is > much better than Firefox! I'm switching to this for banking, and for > everything else as well!" - not "Umm, why does it look like > this?"). This single (admittedly huge) feature, probably along with > the next one, are IMO the "killer features" that Emacs does not have. > > - Ability to continue working in other buffers when one buffer is > busy. Combine this feature and the one mentioned above, and I (perhaps > along with a lot of other people) move from two primary every-day > applications down to one. > I can sympathize with these first two points. Until the symbolics lisp machine is resurrected and we return to a world of parens and turtles all the way down, I've resigned myself to living in a mixed lisp/unix environment. That said, I've been able to cobble together an interface which very closely approximates an Emacs operating system. 1. A tiling window manager (I personally use xmonad [1]). This lets you navigate all of your windows as if they were Emacs buffers, and allows one to go hours using multiple applications without having to use a mouse. 2. Conkeror [2], a web browser built on the same code base as Firefox, which makes web browsing as Emacs-like as possible (e.g., tabs are buffers, and most of the main key chords are the same). The major component my desktop is missing is a system-wide kill ring. I've used tools which purport to provide this, but have yet to find one that works the way I want it to. Cheers, Footnotes: [1] http://xmonad.org [2] http://conkeror.org/ -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte