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From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Outline cycling does not preserve point's position
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:58:02 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y572crtp.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eh8uqu9s.fsf@gmail.com> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:11:27 +0200")

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>> And I agree with you, beginning of line is a good target column.
>>>
>>> On reading Nicolas's explanation, I agree too.  This is better.
>>
>> The decision should be based on what the user would do after doing a
>> C-down and C-up.  
>>
>> If *you* use C-down and C-up for persusal (as yourself say), I don't
>> think you will use C-k immediately.  I sense that you are not
>> representing yourself in a consistent way.
>
> I don't think regular `forward-paragraph' cares about what the user do
> with it. It puts point at beginning of lines and that's it.

I am provoking Suvayu to defend himself, if that's not already clear to
you :-).  

> `org-forward-linear-element' exists because some users want C-down with
> a more intense `forward-paragraph' flavour.

Let me provoke you a bit :-).

What is the difference between forward and linear.  

Is it linear only because it stays in column 0 always?

 OR

Is it linear because it is monotonic in how the cursor moves.

If you side with latter explanation, then I would argue that this notion
of linearity is no different from what is implied by forward.

Btw, I have no issues if you don't want to support
`org-forward-nonlinear-element'.  Yes, if the command does M-m
automatically at end, the cursor position will become curvilinear.

> Regards,

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-07 12:11 Outline cycling does not preserve point's position Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-07 14:17 ` Carsten Dominik
     [not found]   ` <BED1FBAA-8BB5-45D6-8328-11C0BB2DF015-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-07 19:28     ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08  6:16       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  7:57         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08 11:03       ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-09  8:39         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08 16:23       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:11         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:13           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:23             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:27               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:33                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:38                   ` Bastien
2013-09-09  9:05                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 11:32                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 11:49                         ` Bastien
2013-09-09 15:27                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 14:23                         ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 15:16                           ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-09 15:41                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 17:42                             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-10  3:47                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  6:03                               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  6:48                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-10  7:32                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  7:53                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  7:58                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  8:16                                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  8:50                                         ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  9:02                                           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  9:50                                             ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 16:33                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 18:35                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 18:39                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 19:22                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 19:40                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 19:52                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 18:58                                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 19:07                                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 19:48                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 20:13                                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 20:29                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 21:08                                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-11 12:24                                                       ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-12  6:54                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:11                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12  9:28                                                             ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-09-12  9:47                                                               ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-11  2:49                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 11:09                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 11:34                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:19                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 15:40                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:31                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:40                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 16:14                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 20:01                                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 22:11                                                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-12  6:43                                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12 10:12                                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  7:17                                                                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-13 10:57                                                                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-13 22:29                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-14  5:33                                                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-14 17:16                                                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-15  4:39                                                                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10 20:16                                         ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-10  5:06                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11  3:57                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:47                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09  8:38                   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 11:30                     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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