From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id wM3IIfH22V8EfgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 12:00:49 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 4MAQHPH22V8hUgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 12:00:49 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F6BE9406A1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 12:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpVU4-0002Nh-J1 for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:00:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpVTL-0002NO-KT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 06:59:59 -0500 Received: from forward106p.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.28.109]:43601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpVTI-0003pP-9K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 06:59:59 -0500 Received: from forward101q.mail.yandex.net (forward101q.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0e:4b:0:640:4012:bb98]) by forward106p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BB1971C83353 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:59:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: from vla5-8be53d46b6df.qloud-c.yandex.net (vla5-8be53d46b6df.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c18:3404:0:640:8be5:3d46]) by forward101q.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B92A5CF40002 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:59:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: from vla1-719694b86d9e.qloud-c.yandex.net (vla1-719694b86d9e.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c0d:3495:0:640:7196:94b8]) by vla5-8be53d46b6df.qloud-c.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id FKgqQah9O6-xob01Xhd; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:59:50 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1608119990; bh=jMVikd6DTrKflrzC0jiJRukYNts290mAAdPyblmucaA=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Cc:Date:References; b=Y5IBRQ3ti4Ln3u0NBNU8Sh8PiFP6LULZDc9OtUcbXjMr63uiKUdEecOyLq6hj/niD PuCYYyo+KwftOySLWqU8n3JtKJYoG7ghbjSqLYK474cAtrbtr/MxHdx/rsROajMwa8 GNPL+55iDmknAlOSvyJGntNjYk7h8U9T4OApHydM= Received: by vla1-719694b86d9e.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id azGDNv3Wgg-xnHSL5qY; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:59:50 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) From: Colin Baxter To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: Subject: Re: bibtex and babel support References: <873606tb6h.fsf@yandex.com> <87sg869j8j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 11:59:48 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87sg869j8j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:46:04 +0000") Message-ID: <87y2hyj70r.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAGQAAAAeBAMAAAAodabAAAAAB3RJTUUH1wQdAAY04/L8hgAA AAlwSFlzAAAewQAAHsEBw2lUUwAAAARnQU1BAACxjwv8YQUAAAASUExURc7OzpwAAAAAAP////8A AGNj/2aqqTQAAAA8SURBVHjaYzA2NnEBAmdj01D8wNgYpM7F2JiBgYFREAgEGJiU8AMGBpA6QaCG UVtGbRm1ZdSWUVsGjS0Aq20lJnMawnkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=77.88.28.109; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward106p.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=Y5IBRQ3t; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yandex.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9F6BE9406A1 X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: RaWUCBm8kIhi Dear Eric, Thanks for the reply. >>>>> Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 08:19, Colin Baxter wrote: >> However, tangling bibtex src blocks works without an explicit >> (bibtex . t). > Good. As it should. >> Indeed if I do insert such a line in my emacs init file, I get an >> error with "(require ob-bibtex) not found". > But there is no need for such a line as bibtex src blocks cannot > be evaluated. org babel makes no sense in this case. Yes, I thought that at the time. I think I was thrown by the initial error message, which prompted me to think that a file called "ob-bibtex.el" existed or had existed, and this would add some sort of functionality that I had yet to understand. >> Although the tangle of bibtex src blocks works well, the block >> itself often seem to have fontlock issues and sometimes it seems >> not to accept the standard bibtex comment, which begins with @ >> followed by a space and then text. > This will be a bibtex-mode issue, not an org issue? Does it font > lock correctly if you edit the src block in bibtex mode? This turns out to be a red herring. I find I can edit the source blocks and insert appropriate comment lines using C-c '. I forgot about this and was editing the source blocks directly in the org file.=F0=9F=98=B1 > Just to say that I use bibtex src blocks a lot but I also use the > functionality found in ol-bibtex.el for creating bib files from > org properties. Yes ol-bibtex.el is good but doesn't fit my purpose. I use non-standard bib fields - such as "illustrations", "binding", "condition", etc. - that are not in available properties of ol-bibtex.el. Thanks again for your help - I feel I understand things a little better. Colin. Colin Baxter URL: http://www.Colin-Baxter.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Since mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity, I do not understand it myself. A. Einstein