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Keep in mind that some users require a very >> > large font (for example, I use a 26 or 28 pt font. >> >> OK, I understand. (Even with default font size, I hate that the table >> of contents hides some parts of the text -- I had forgotten about >> that.) >> >> > [...] There have also been numerous other issues (many have already >> > been addressed) such as broken links, links to data which doesn't >> > exist or has wrong MIME type [...] Perhaps even more unfortunate >> > is that sometimes, you can come across some good information in the >> > worg site, but finding that same information again at a latter date >> > is often extremely challenging. >> >> But that's not "Org styling", right? Or am I confused about what >> "styling" means? >> >> At any rate, I agree with your other examples, understand why the >> styling (as I understand it) should be improved, and am no longer >> worried about changes. Thank you very much for your time. > > It isn't just about the styling - that is just one aspect and the one I > planned to start with. However, styling and presentation will also be > part of providing better links/navigation, which I think is also > necessary to make exploration and discovery easier and more consistent. > . Can you give us an example/model of a site that does these things better? I agree with your assessment, but feel that some kind of target is needed. TIA, Leo=